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Jul 9th, 2011 at 11:57am
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Isle Royale was not especially tough (although a few in our group would differ). No up to your butt bogs and generally cleared portages. I'm having a hard time understanding why I got so beat up. Rigorous and faithful working out all winter should of put me past that or so I had thought.

All I can come up with is I didn't stretch. My daily workouts include 5 minutes of warm up and 5 minutes or so of stretching. My canoe trip included zero warm up and zero stretching.

My back was the most troubling issue. Perhaps having to lay on a camping mattress during an exceedingly cold and rainy spell contributed to my issues. Got tight, then cold and "bing".

Anyways, I'm over 50 (52 in a couple of days...........my great gal picked up a few suick's and floro musky leaders for the b-day.....what a woman Smiley ) and not as limber as I once was. If you are over 50 it might be a consideration for you as well.

Always warm up before stretching. Run in place at a low level or easy jumping jacks just to get the blood flowing otherwise the stretching could cause an injury. Thought I would pass this on for some contemplation.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 9th, 2011 at 3:42pm
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Stretch you achilles tendons too!  Mine snapped in two. 

Then again, we 50-somethings are not in geezer-land yet, but we can see it from here.  The slippery slope to decrepitude gets steeper after 50.  So one might argue that guys like us who are in denial just have to face it, get over it, and accept that some of the aches and pains are unavoidable if we want to keep doing the things we love!

But still stretch, and take your vitamins.

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Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 2:39pm
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I have a few years on you guys (62) and know from working out for years as well as having a friend who is a Exercise/Fitness professional, that the latest research says that you get the best results by warming up slowly but do you stretching at the end of exercise or for us paddlers, after camp is set and the chores done.

Don't get me wrong, stretching after your warm-up won't hurt you any, its just that latest research has shown that it doesn't protect you from injury as the experts used to think.
A cool-down and good stretching session after a workout is the Gold standard now.

A couple of things I've learned over the years that might help people both at home and on the water.

Most people after a nights sleep, wake up, and either jump right up or after a few minutes of contemplation are up and moving. The same people if they work out would never consider jumping right into their exercise of choice without warming up. So why after 8 hrs or so of lying in a horizontal position with your blood pooling in various areas of your body dependiong on sleep position, would you just jump right up before at least loosening up/stretching a little?

Ever watch a cat? When the awake, they stretch, roll around a little bit before they start moving. We should do the same.
Every morning at home or in camp, I roll on to my back, take a deep breath, and while slowly exhaling reach my hands over my head while pointing my toes try to elongate my body as far as it will go.

Then I take a deep breath in and slowly exhale while using my hands to grab the back of my knees and very slowly bring my knees into my chest. Hold for a few easy breaths, feeling your hamstrings/vertebrate slowly release in your lower back. Exhaling, slowly extend back to your starting position. Do that a few time and you won't believe the difference when you roll out of bed/ air mattress.

On paddling trips, your upper body/arms are warmed from paddling, but your legs/lower back are tight from sitting.
When I hit the portage, I take my paddle and hold it behind my head and do a few trunk twists similar to what knowledgeable golfers do. In the same position I take a big breath in and slowly bend sideways, not bouncing, just let gravity be your guide. First one way the the other, a few times is all you need. Last but not least, I set my paddle down and taking a deep breath in, I use my hands sliding down my pants front to slowly bend forward, knees straight but not locked out and try and let my hands slide down as far to my ankles/toes/ground as I can get without forcing the stretch.

The key to doing this safely is to keep your stomach sucked in as far as possible and hold it in going down and back up.
Don't hold your breath, just breath in/exhale slowly and deeply as possible without straining.

Often what we perceive as lower back tightness, is really tightness is our hamstrings ( upper back of legs). These 2 stretches will help loosen them and in turn loosen the tightness in our lower backs from prolonged sitting or sleeping in one position all night.

Last thing that will help keep you injury free is when 2x portaging like the majority of paddler do, is take the lighter load across first Huh I know that may seem counter-intuitive to many, but the lighter first load will allow you to warm up your body properly, give you more flexibility if you encounter obstacle on the trail and actually make the heavier second load safer and easier to handle.

Or you could just find some nubile young portage girls that can carry 245# canoes and sign on as the cook and campfire builder Grin
Until that happens, I don't think you'll regret trying the suggestions I mentioned. Wink
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 8:26pm
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Thanks for the excellent suggestions Solotripper.  I'm determined, once I'm back on my feet again, to do whatever it takes to NEVER be out of commission, or to be on crutches again.

I've read my injury, ruptured achilles tendon, is common among 50-something guys who play active sports like racquetball, tennis, or basketball. 

Shame on me for thinking I was 35!

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Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:21pm
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Your more than welcome P-boy.

I know what it feels like to be hurt.
When I worked in commercial construction and before I became a exercise person, I hurt my back from trying to lift something I had no business even attempting.

I have two disks in my lower back that are questionable.
I didn't need surgery, I found a good Chiropractor that helped me rehab.

About that time I got into exercising and found that strengthening my core and warming up before/ cooling down/stretching afterward would keep me relatively injury free.
The times I've hurt myself was because I ignored my own advice and found out that the price you pay for not taking the time to do the right thing is far greater than the time you think your saving by not getting your body ready for whatever stress your planning on putting it thru.

Having a chronic injury or surgery isn't my idea of fun. The old adage about an ounce of prevention being worth more than a pound of cure is a truth that's better learned from others mis-fortunes than personal experience Wink

  
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Reply #5 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 11:55pm
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Being a bit younger, the future is starting to look pretty bleak! You can put me in the category of do what I say and not as I do.

As always, I have learned almost everything from most of you and give the credit back to where it belongs, but I will try to share a few random thoughts...

ST is right on the money. You can get a much deeper stretch at the end of a workout. Although, spending 10-20 minutes first and last thing each day when needed seems to help me quite a bit for sleeping on the ground. I feel it in my hips and lower back the most and sometimes will do a gentle stretch both sitting and lying down in the tent. Stretching in view of the lake can be pretty relaxing.

Canoe butt is no laughing matter  Wink. Also, using your core muscles in an almost countless repetition to paddle and then asking those same muscles to support your frame while you portage a pack and canoe can take its toll... not to mention the lack of a good chair as well as sleeping on the ground?

There is probably no substitute for proper exercise, but besides paddling and portaging all day it seems to me that it may be hard to prepare your body for a canoe trip? *Perhaps MP can tell you more about that*

Stretching should never hurt or cause injury. I have found several ways to stretch that are completely different from what 'we' were taught in school/sports, perhaps now a bit dated, but they work well for me. Sneaking up on a muscle with a short and gentle stretch (until) with the idea of persuading it to release some of its tension is a good way to get in tune with how you are feeling. You can come back and try for a little deeper stretch after that initial release. If you try pushing too far you may get the opposite results then what you are looking for, **especially if that area is already hurting**? You might increase the time and range as you get more into it. The idea here is to take is slow at first and learn to listen to what your body is telling you.

Using opposite muscles against each other is another way to force the relaxation you desire. When one muscle contracts, the opposite muscle is forced into a stretched position. If you are stretching your chest for instance, make a conscious effort to contract the muscles by your shoulder blades at the same time. Gravity or light weights can also be used to help tire a muscle just like being in traction  Wink

If any of this sounds new or interesting perhaps check out these books? each one has something good to say and I could not possibly get by without them:

Stretching, Bob Anderson

Stretch and Strengthen, Judy Alter

Active Isolated Stretching. Jim and Phil Wharton (this one is a little different then what is described above)
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 10:58am
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From geezer-land. ST says good things, as do several others. Stay active -- better than a last minute effort to get in shape. As I look back on my life and its activities (and I once was a marathon runner), I wish I had started yoga when I was 19 or 20. I recommend it to all.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 2:05pm
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A_A,

The older you get the more you realize that youth is truly wasted on the young Wink
Staying active as you say is the key, but it's also never to late to get in better shape and better overall health.

Since 75% of our health problems are lifestyle/diet related, adopting a better eating plan and just a daily walk and some stretching afterward will go a long ways.
Yoga is an excellent way to keep strong and limber and proves you don't need to beat your body into shape to get in shape.

Biggest drawback to entering Geezer-Land when it comes to exercise is that you don't bounce back as fast from a hard workout.
When your new to exercising and especially if your older, you fall into the " no pain/ no gain" trap.
There's a big and very important difference between physical fatigue and real pain.
People of all ages, especially older ones need to ease into an exercise routine and make stretching afterward as much of a priority as the exercise itself.

More people start and stop exercise programs becasue they try to keep up with the " Jones" in the gym, rather than listening to their bodies. Once hurt they more often than not, decide exercise isn't for them Sad

There's something for everyone, you just need to find it.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 3:14pm
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Good point about trying to keep up with the "Joneses" at the gym. I've seen lots of folks come, then leave because they could not lift what some lift, or bend the way my yoga instructor bends -- no way. Lifestyle is not a competitive event.

And I don't work out in hopes it will let me live longer. I work out because it lets me live better.

  
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Reply #9 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 6:25pm
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Ancient_Angler wrote on Jul 14th, 2011 at 3:14pm:
And I don't work out in hopes it will let me live longer. I work out because it lets me live better



Best reason ever! With the rising health-care costs and less services for your dollar, we all are going to be paying more as we age. Just like with your car, you can pay for maintenance/oil change, or ignore the warning signs and pay for surgery/rehab/ drug prescriptions. Even if you don't care about the " quality" issue, who doesn't like to save a buck?

I'd rather be looking at a hot/fit yoga/fitness instructors butt than have a overworked/underpaid doctor looking up mine Grin
  
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