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Replaceable skid plates (Read 7170 times)

Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Replaceable skid plates Oct 30^th, 2011 at 4:02pm	Quote Print Post
	If you ever had a new or really nice canoe you hate to get the first scratches in it. The most ware will come on the keel line near the bow or stern. Just a little protection is these areas would make your canoe stay closer to unscratched. I had picked up a partial role of what looks like 4 inch wide black electrical tape in the dumpster at a construction site. I cut a piece in a elongated rain drop shape and put it on my canoe before last year’s Q trips. At the end of the trip both the bow and stern skid plates had some holes in the tape but the area under them was in good shape. I removed the old ones and put new ones on to continue the protection for another year. Any one else try any thing like this. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5460 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #1 - Oct 31^st, 2011 at 6:05am	Quote Print Post
	I like that shape a lot, not the folds/creases though. I've tried gaffers tape, strapping tape and bicycle inner tubes once each. The rocks shredded them or the water rendered them ineffective. I forget which was which but none made it a whole trip. I could tell when they failed just by listening. Old road bike tires (kevlar belted) work well for me. The really expensive kind that come in (new) a box. Just ask a bike shop to set a few old used ones aside for you. Ideally, w/ some rubber left but no tread. Cut off the beads and use contact cement to apply. They stretch and conform very nicely. I don't use them because I may hit a rock by accident. I use them because I get out a lot and they are grippy. I can usually find a spot where I can lift and set the bow and stern on rock so the canoe is free to move with the waves w/o damaging the canoe. I love 'em and they last for years. Wouldn't want them on in rapids though as they are grippy. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) That canoe is ~25 years old and I've been using contact cement for over 20. I did noticed a slight yellowing last time I replaced my tires. YMMV


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solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8105 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #2 - Oct 31^st, 2011 at 3:04pm	Quote Print Post
	Quote: Old road bike tires (kevlar belted) work well for me. What a clever idea! I like that out of the box approach to doing things yourself That called for a thumbs-up, but a cool smile will have to do.


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #3 - Oct 31^st, 2011 at 3:54pm	Quote Print Post
	I don't worry about scratches that don't go through to fabric. To me they're just part of using the canoe. I've been in too many situations where not scratching the canoe puts me at more risk or is just a huge hassle than it's worth. Why the aversion to felt plates? The bike tires is a neat idea with purpose. I've heard of some folks laying a strip of CF tape along the keel.


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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #4 - Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:13pm	Quote Print Post
	I'm a fan of simply adding a strip or two (occasionally three) of fiberglass cloth and resin when the stems of the boat get abraded. When the resin sets I sand so it conforms to the original shape. Easy to do and doesn't create drag or change the dynamic of the boat or the appearance for that matter.


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Joe_Schmeaux Inukshuk Offline Posts: 395 Location: Alberta Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #5 - Nov 1^st, 2011 at 3:44am	Quote Print Post
	Solus wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:13pm: I'm a fan of simply adding a strip or two (occasionally three) of fiberglass cloth and resin when the stems of the boat get abraded. When the resin sets I sand so it conforms to the original shape. Easy to do and doesn't create drag or change the dynamic of the boat or the appearance for that matter. Me too! But that's only because our boats look so cool and have such great dynamics to start with


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Mad_Mat Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1549 Joined: Apr 21^st, 2003	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #6 - Nov 1^st, 2011 at 12:09pm	Quote Print Post
	adding felt skid plates and resin adds a "fair" amount of weight to a boat - especially if you have an ultralight hull. I'd rather be more careful vs adding "bang plates" to my boats - repair only when/if needed. "Trimbrite" - I added a strip to the bow and stern on mu UL boats - something of a compromise between nothing and full blown skid plates - not as cheap as that black tape from the dumpster though. and bike tires make it rain!


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #7 - Nov 1^st, 2011 at 2:17pm	Quote Print Post
	Trimbrite is neat. Mildly amused at the carbon fibre style. Get the look of carbon fibre without the cost or benefits! heehee. I never thought carbon fibre actually looked good, that the weight & performance were the big wins. Rice up your canoe! Can totally appreciate the performance concerns for those who geek out on that action.


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5460 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #8 - Nov 1^st, 2011 at 5:22pm	Quote Print Post
	Mad_Mat wrote on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 12:09pm: and bike tires make it rain! I like rainy days! Everything looks so juicy.... Only time I don't is when it's time to pack up the tent. That's not as much fun in the rain.


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #9 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 11:25pm	Quote Print Post
	What gave me the idea was db’s tires but I did not have any tires that would work on hand. The first set of tape skid plates went on better with almost none of the wrinkles. I don’t know what I did this time that made it wrinkle. This one may be further up the end of the canoe. I have enough to make several more sets so I am set until the canoe gets enough scratches that I am not so paranoid. LOL Tires make it rain.


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knafelc Inukshuk Offline Posts: 148 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2011	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #10 - Jan 22^nd, 2012 at 12:44pm	Quote Print Post
	Just now took a look at this posting. Though my boat is not new or nice ('93 royalex old town penobscot),I wish I'd done something like this before I wore though the outer layer of both ends. I know that's what kevlar skid plates are for,but I was too cheap to spend $100 on a $300 conoe. ("...quit your cryin'...") Now I've bunged up a fiber glass strip on each end,not been happy, and then sanded that down' and put kevlar skids on over the whole mess. I've now got 30" strips protruding maybe a 1/2" from the original hull line. What is this going to do to the boat's performance?


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #11 - Jan 22^nd, 2012 at 7:20pm	Quote Print Post
	I had a green penobscot that wore through to where it was showing white. I put skid plates on it and it could have been used as a ice breaker after that. The skid plates I used were over 1/8 thick and that was plenty. I used the canoe for a couple of years after that and the skid plates did not show any wear. As far as what to do with your boat use it as long as you can carry it then sell it and buy a lighter one.


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knafelc Inukshuk Offline Posts: 148 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2011	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #12 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 6:08am	Quote Print Post
	Thanks for the reassurance, Magicpaddler. A lighter boat has been on my wish list for a while now...but is probably going to stay a wish a bit longer. I'm glad to hear I haven't turned my trusty,but hard to carry,cruel to my arthritic back,boat,also hard to paddle. Since my kid and I are still pretty prone to bumping into and off of things, the ice breaker set up is not entirely bad. I don't know how many times I've scraped over a rock and thought that I'm sure glad we're not in a $2,000 boat! I'm starting to think about solo trips now,and a set up like db's white sawyer is looking awfully sweet. ...By the way,is that black tape rubberized window/door flashing?


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Replaceable skid plates Reply #13 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 10:52pm	Quote Print Post
	The tape looks like vinyl electrical tape only a little thicker and much wider. A rubber tape might streatch and fit better.


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