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DentonDoc Moderator Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Picto at South McAree Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:27am	Quote Print Post
	I was reviewing Furtman's book and he suggest that there might be a picto on southern McAree (western shore live above Rebecca Falls. Has anyone found this picto? What symbols are present? Do you remember any details about the location? Thx. dd


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ToothFairy Inukshuk Offline Posts: 158 Location: Grand Rapids, MN Joined: Feb 1^st, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #1 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 2:55am	Quote Print Post
	Yes, I found it in 2007. It is small and not significant.


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ToothFairy Inukshuk Offline Posts: 158 Location: Grand Rapids, MN Joined: Feb 1^st, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #2 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 2:58am	Quote Print Post
	Here it again a bit larger. It is an abstract? Not really sure.


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DentonDoc Moderator Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #3 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 3:08am	Quote Print Post
	Thanks, TF. Any chance you visited the picto site SE of Curtain Falls (on the US side)? dd


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ToothFairy Inukshuk Offline Posts: 158 Location: Grand Rapids, MN Joined: Feb 1^st, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #4 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 12:54pm	Quote Print Post
	I did in the early 80's before I started taking pictures of the pictographs. I want to see it again before I officially count it in my quest to see all the pictographs in the BWCA and Quetico. I only have 5 sites left out of 60. You must be planning a trip....


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DentonDoc Moderator Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #5 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 1:59pm	Quote Print Post
	ToothFairy wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 12:54pm: I only have 5 sites left out of 60. You must be planning a trip.... Then someone will poke into an area and find a new one! (I found one in June on Donald Lake the WCPP staff didn't know about. They had a crew go back to the area later without my coordinates and found yet another one slightly further west.) I'll be making a reverse "Z" trip this year: In at Bottle Portage, then east. Northeast thru the Rolands to Darkwater, then east thru William and Conmee ... maybe as far as Burt before reversing course. dd


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #6 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 5:31pm	Quote Print Post
	Are they still finding new ones? 5/60 left, kudos!


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5465 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #7 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:26pm	Quote Print Post
	Are there any that aren't in reasonable proximity to water? I consider the one on Montgomery to be in reasonable proximity at some point in time. Has anyone ever tried to date these things by evidence of water levels over time?


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ToothFairy Inukshuk Offline Posts: 158 Location: Grand Rapids, MN Joined: Feb 1^st, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #8 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 8:34pm	Quote Print Post
	I don't think they have. I only know that experts consider them to be somewhere between 300-400 years old based on when the Ojibwe have lived in the area. Also, lichen that has grown over pictographs has a known rate of growth and that has been used to date them. Schoolcraft (1850) noted some in his explorations and drew them. Other explorers asked their guides "who did these?" and they said they didn't know. I also heard that the Montgomery Creek pictographs may be older (from Park personnel). Bob Evans and Edwind Trout have researched all the pictos and have been publishing "Bulletins" so that people can find them easier. They include lots of interesting facts in the brochures also. I went with them to Swartman lake. We bushwhacked there a few years ago. People have come out of the woods literally to tell the of sights that are not known about. There are some interesting stories to tell about these new pictographs and hopefully they will share them with everyone sometime. Happy pictograph hunting. Kim


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ToothFairy Inukshuk Offline Posts: 158 Location: Grand Rapids, MN Joined: Feb 1^st, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #9 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 8:38pm	Quote Print Post
	Here is a picture of the upside down caribou on Swartman.


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5465 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #10 - Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 6:59am	Quote Print Post
	ToothFairy wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 8:34pm: I also heard that the Montgomery Creek pictographs may be older (from Park personnel). Thanks for the info Kim. I thought the creek pictos were "bolder" than most I've seen and therefore more recent. Plus they covered some spalling. No real clue though. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #11 - Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 2:15pm	Quote Print Post
	DB Hope you don’t mind but I looked at the previous pictures at the above address and saw a rock wall. Is the wall where the creek pictos are? MagicPaddler


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5465 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #12 - Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 10:30pm	Quote Print Post
	How dare you peak! Yup. They'd be hard to miss. Could be others too though I suppose. That's just where I happened to stop looking that day.


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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #13 - Dec 5^th, 2011 at 6:15pm	Quote Print Post
	DB did you see the picto below the campsite on Montgomery? Rated NC-17


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solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8127 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #14 - Dec 5^th, 2011 at 9:16pm	Quote Print Post
	Solus wrote on Dec 5^th, 2011 at 6:15pm: DB did you see the picto below the campsite on Montgomery? Rated NC-17 Those damn Native American teenagers must of had their old mans canoe out for a joy paddle and you know what that leads too


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db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5465 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #15 - Dec 6^th, 2011 at 6:31am	Quote Print Post
	Yeah, that's sort of like the other 'woody' on Darky as I recall. I've also have it from two seemingly reliable sources that that campsite is ummm, inhabited. One preferred not to camp there again.


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #16 - Dec 6^th, 2011 at 5:59pm	Quote Print Post
	KF and I camped there a few years ago. I strung my hammock from the two trees directly above those pictos. The hammock was so near the edge I tied rocks to my tarp tie outs and dropped then over the edge. What a view!! I remember awaking to get my nightly relief and looking out of the hammock without raising my head I could see all the way to the north end of the lake. MagicPaddler


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jjcanoeguide Inukshuk Offline Posts: 309 Location: Frisco, TX Joined: Jun 20^th, 2007	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #17 - Dec 6^th, 2011 at 11:04pm	Quote Print Post
	I've also found a picto on Agnes not on the maps or in Furtman's book. But I'm not telling where it is


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Old Salt Inukshuk Offline Posts: 4871 Location: Crossville, TN Joined: Jun 17^th, 2004	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #18 - Dec 7^th, 2011 at 4:10pm	Quote Print Post
	jjcanoeguide wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 11:04pm: I've also found a picto on Agnes not on the maps or in Furtman's book. But I'm not telling where it is Why? Sharing is what we're all about here.


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Jim J Solo Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1195 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #19 - Dec 8^th, 2011 at 4:28pm	Quote Print Post
	Old Salt wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 4:10pm: jjcanoeguide wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 11:04pm: I've also found a picto on Agnes not on the maps or in Furtman's book. But I'm not telling where it is Why? Sharing is what we're all about here. ?? ya why?? It's not like a hot fishing spot someone could abuse by over fishing.


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #20 - Dec 8^th, 2011 at 5:57pm	Quote Print Post
	Heh, reminds me of calculus class. Johnny was the smartest. Nobody could solve the problem. Teacher asked Johnny if he knew, which of course he did. Johnny refused to provide the answer. Teacher asked why. Johnny answered, "The less you know, the more I do."


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jjcanoeguide Inukshuk Offline Posts: 309 Location: Frisco, TX Joined: Jun 20^th, 2007	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #21 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 9:47pm	Quote Print Post
	Since several have questioned why I wouldn't post the location on the general, open forum, let me explain. I have personally seen individuals touching pictos as well as intentionally splashing water on them "to make sure they were real". This attitude is what I seek to protect pictos, artifacts and other cool spots from. To several of my friends, pictograph sites are considered spirtual. Out of respect for them, I choose not to divulge additional spots that we have discovered on a searchable forum. If you are truly interested in finding a faint, abstract picto in an out of the travel-way location, please become a Inukshuk, as I'll post the location there. Otherwise, you could PM me.


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Picto at South McAree Reply #22 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 3:45pm	Quote Print Post
	Sounds reasonable, thanks! Regarding water, considering the rain, snow, hail, ice I doubt that splashing water would be an issue. Folks should not touch. These things are temporary. Nobody does it anymore. Eventually they'll be lost.


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