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Why take teenagers?
Jan 19th, 2012 at 7:22am
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In todays world of high paced and hi-tech distractions and amusements it may be tough to interest the typical teen into a canoe trip. Everywhere I go I see people interacting with "machines" instead of each other. The head is down.......hand is on the mouse or fingers on the keyboard.

What is your experience with taking teens on a trip and what advice can you suggest for a positive experience.

As for me it is patently obvious why I take teens  Wink

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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2012 at 12:40pm
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We only took our kids on a trip only once, as we usually kept canoeing as a "just for the two of us" activity.  But when they were 16 and 19 we did a family trip.  Our daughter and son shared a rented aluminum canoe, and it was most interesting to watch them learn to cooperate--at first to get that canoe to just go in a straight line, and then to decide to take off without us!    Wink

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We had a very good time.  It was lots of fun and laughter, lots of learning for all of us, and making memories that we still talk of today.  (trip was in 1988.)

That year our son was seriously training for high school cross country, so at the portages and the campsites he ran and ran.  Our daughter read books and searched the water for crayfish and other treasures.  I love this photo of us doing our "things" in the campsite.

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They are grown up now, our "baby"  (that would be our son) is turning 40 in April.  Our daughter and her husband took one BWCA trip themselves, and it is their daughter who goes to the north every year with us for a cabin week.  So far our son hasn't showed much interest.

But we have never been sorry that we did do one family trip.  It was fun.

  
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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #2 - Jan 21st, 2012 at 4:31pm
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Thanks for sharing your photos and stories.  We always bring young people along; now they are young adults.  My son and daughters haven't become avid canoeists after my example, partially because we've lived in big cities; Atlanta and Chicago; although they were involved with scouting and took several trips to the Quetico and BWCA.  I guess it's just everyone's own choice in life.  I know I got addicted to canoe country at an early age and have loved it ever since.

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Reply #3 - Jan 23rd, 2012 at 4:03pm
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I sure am grateful for the adults in my scout troop who took me on my first Quetico canoe trip and gave me the fever for Up North.  I’m also glad that I had the opportunity to guide many teens through the Boy Scout Base.  Some of the keys to success that I’ve learned:
1. No electronics, other than an emergency radio or sat phone and a camera.  Possibly a watch, but I’d go cold turkey on that too.  Get them unplugged.
2. Have some group games, fire talks, and a deck of cards for a rainy day.  You can always cram 6 or 7 kids in a 4 person tent to play cards.  Just know a few good card games that they may not have even heard of.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
3. Scavenger hunts – bring a few flora and fauna nature books and see who can identify such and such.
4. If they are urban dwellers, they may have never seen the milky way.  If skies are clear, get them out on a rock checking out the sky.  Also, look for meteor showers, northern lights, or even just satellites crossing the sky.
5. Challenge the heck out of them – Don’t underestimate the power of reverse psychology and also praise for a job well done.  Kids often have more physical energy and ability than they know, so push them hard. 
6. Teach them how to set up camp and do the chores, then let them do it.  You can sleep while they collect firewood, hang bear bags, and burn off their extra energy.
7. Cook over an open fire.  Most haven’t experienced it, and you have the manpower to collect plenty of firewood.
8. Bring extra food, snacks to help get over the mid-day blahs or when that bowl of oatmeal was burned up before you tackle a strong headwind or hard portage.  Teen boys eat way more than adults, so much so that we call them locusts.  They come in to camp, and suddenly all the food is gone.
9. Explain to them what you’re doing and why.  It’s far easier to get them out of bed for an early morning paddle if they know it’s to allow for an early camp and more time fishing/reading/exploring.
10. I recommend early starts in the morning and camping for the day around lunch whenever possible.  Also, be sure to plan for a couple of layover days on a trip with more than 7 nights.
  
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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #4 - Jan 23rd, 2012 at 6:04pm
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Take them for "health reasons". Obesity among our youth is a major epidemic.
The financial burden of that on our health care system is going to be overwhelming as these kids move into young adulthood and many become diabetic and suffer heart/ orthopedic problems that keep them from working.

The other day I saw a report about the effects of long term texting by kids on their orthopedic health.
The Dr said that he's seeing more and kids, his daughter included suffering from tingling in the hands/elbows, numbness/pain in neck and shoulders that if untreated can result in serious life long problems and maybe even surgery.

He said the average human head weighs about 8 lbs. For every inch you bend your neck past a certain angle, you add the pressure of another 10 lbs to your cervical neck area.
People that text for hours on end with arms extended/elbows locked out and heads bent at the optimum angle are putting over 40 lbs of pressure on their necks and at a bad angle at that.

People are not going to stop using their gadgets, but maybe if kids learn that they can have fun, get some great exercise and actually interact with others without relying solely on electronic tools, they'll be able to strike a healthy balance between the two.

I think the worst thing they ever did was take PE out of the schools or at least make it voluntary in many areas. Kid need to run and play and use their imaginations. Googling and seeing how something is done isn't the same as learning firsthand and retaining the skill.

The "kids" at work our always asking me questions that I can't believe they don't know or worse yet never even heard of before?
They want to know how I know those things.

I say I read/watch PBS, they say we just Google it on our Smart Phones. I say what happens if you don't have your phone with you? They can't imagine that possibility and tell me that retaining knowledge in their heads in a waste of time when they can just look up the answer in seconds.

Not surprising they're all physical/dietary wrecks and unless they change their mind sets will never make if to geezer land like me.
  
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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2012 at 7:01pm
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Take them because if they go with you once, sooner or later, they will want to go with you again

Our oldest, who is now a junior in college, started with me when he was 11. He took a couple of those late teen years off because he was "busy".

Last year, he invited a college roomie from the east coast & a couple of highschool buddies to tag along.

This summer, he has a waiting list of guys wanting in!

The things you can teach & show your children on a trip are so easily transferable then they can take others.

  
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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2012 at 7:30pm
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For the pure joy of watching them experience the ups and downs of the country (and maybe new ways to land fish).  And they are usually bouncing back across the portage before I'm halfway...  Agreed that they do burn through the gorp!
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 23rd, 2012 at 7:41pm
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I am enjoying the pics..........thanks!
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 24th, 2012 at 11:18pm
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Many years ago I took my 15 year old nephew who had lived in Milwaukee and Detroit to Beaverhouse and then into Jean for a week.  We had portaged into Beaverhouse and were paddling to the ranger station.  My nephew asked if he could have a drink of water.  I said sure and handed him a cup.  He looked at me like what am I suppose to do with the cup.  I said dip it in the lake and take a drink.  He said no thanks.  A few minutes later I took my cup and took a drink of water.  He looked at me with big eyes, thinking I was crazy.   A few minutes later he asked about a drink.  I said the water was safe to drink.  He summoned all his courage and took a drink.  He was amazed that he didn't die.  Later on he said that you would never drink the water in Detroit.

Later on in the days as we were going past some rocks formations, he asked he if what he was seeing was man made.  He was referring to the rocks, beaches and water.  I said everything he saw was made by god.  He said he wasn't sure because everything in Detroit was man made.  It was also great to watch him see his first snapping turtle trying to lay eyes at our campsite and see how the turtle would hiss and snap at a sick.  Plus there is always a thrill to watch a kid catch his first large fish.  Plus, it was just neat to see his amazement at his first introduction to "nature".
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Re: Why take teenagers?
Reply #9 - Jan 25th, 2012 at 12:04am
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Take them for "health reasons".


Save your aching back, let the kids carry it!!!
  
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