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EAting fish in BWCA/Quetico
Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:35pm
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Does anyone agree with Stu Osthoff of BWJ that only one fish meal per trip is the limit? And that it's better to not keep any? I was shocked to read his opinion on this subject. I fish to have a meal not to see how many fish I can put through a traumatic experience.
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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:44pm
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I could care less what Osthoff thinks.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 2:20pm
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I think you should consider how much pressure the particular lake you are fishing gets and then let your conscience be your guide.  I really don't think there is a one-size-fits-all answer.

Wally will tell you what you are allowed to do legally is the only limit you need to worry about and in one sense he is right.  He's also entirely correct that what Osthoff thinks should be a total non-factor.  Just because someone has the ability to share their opinion with large numbers of people doesn't make their opinion any more correct.

I will tell you that fish aren't capable of the level of higher thinking you assign them that they would require to be traumatized.  But that's just my opinion (based on the research I've done).  You are of course entitled to your own opinion.

Bottom line, if I'm fishing a heavily travelled/fished lake in the BWCA I'd be far less likely to eat a meal of fish from those waters.  If I was on a dead-end side lake with no campsites, I'd worry a lot less.  But I fish the Q far more often, mostly because there is a lot less traffic/pressure and a lot less need for me to worry about sustainability.  I will eat multiple meals of fish and I will not stop fishing just because I've caught a meal.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:50pm
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Yes, I agree that STU should only have one fish meal per trip.  Now if he would only take ONE (rather than 20) trips a year, we'd be good!

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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 4:40pm
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I have always thought fishing pressure in canoe country was insignificant to fish populations compared to what I see going on on motor accessible lakes. So I'm glad you all seem to agree. I wonder why Stu feels so strongly. I am kind of joking about the fish trauma. I often chuckle when returning a fish, thinking about what a strange experience that must have been for the fish.
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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 6:17pm
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When I plan my menu, I plan on eating fish once a day.  Sometimes plans change.  For example, last September, my wife caught a 8 pound trout that died.  So of course we ate more than one fish meal that day because a 8 pound trout fillets to almost 4 pounds of meat.  To keep the fish fresh for the second meal, I used my basketball net which was intended to be used as a anchor to keep the fish fresh.  After the trout is filleted, put the meat in a plastic bag.  Put the bag in the basketball net with enough rocks and sink the fish in deep water.

I also think it makes a different on what type of fish you are eating.  If you are eating small mouth bass which many consider an invasive species in parts of Quetico, why not eat two meals a day.  I enjoy eating fish, but eating fish twice a day gets old. 

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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:25pm
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Given Stu's a guide and focused on giving clients a grand fishing experience, it doesn't surprise me at all that he's an advocate for catch and release.  Nothing wrong with that.    Most folks who visit canoe country pay enough to catch and eat what they can...nothing wrong with that either.

Personally, I spend most of my money in the Quetico.  And given the fees, I'll eat eat fish every few days and not think twice about it.  With one exception.  I've found a couple of relatively small Quetico lakes with lake trout and/or big smallmouth and I won't keep fish from these lakes...but that's just me.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:46pm
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pine_knot wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:25pm:
Given Stu's a guide and focused on giving clients a grand fishing experience, it doesn't surprise me at all that he's an advocate for catch and release.  Nothing wrong with that.    Most folks who visit canoe country pay enough to catch and eat what they can...nothing wrong with that either.

Personally, I spend most of my money in the Quetico.  And given the fees, I'll eat eat fish every few days and not think twice about it.  With one exception.  I've found a couple of relatively small Quetico lakes with lake trout and/or big smallmouth and I won't keep fish from these lakes...but that's just me.


I am very much inclined to agree with PK on this one. I have several friends who are professional bass guides. It is not uncommon for them to catch 50 to 70 bass in one day if they are chewing. All of them refuse to keep even 1 bass........The more your living depends on healthy populations of fish (or game) the more protective you are liable to be.

I also agree with PK on being selective about size and place. I won't think twice about eating a 16" eye out of Basswood but would certainly let all fish of significant size go. Remember that in the Canadian shield fish may tend to grow slowly........it seems a shame to eat the big ones.

And lastly........trauma? Fish can be physically traumatized by being played to long where they expend all their energy.......or from being brought up from the depths (such as lake trout in the heat of summer).........But what about the fish just going through a hurtful unpleasant experience? Remember a fishes musculature is quite different than ours. A hook in the lip is probably quite similar to a spine in the mouth when said fish is munching some poor innocent other fish.........Oh that's right........quite a savage realm they live in isn't it?

I laugh when people look across the lake early in the morning with just a wisp of fog........."It's so peaceful" they are apt to comment........when just underneath the surface creatures are biting and killing with reckless abandon........
  
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Re: EAting fish in BWCA/Quetico
Reply #8 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:07am
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I agree with many of the above posts. The "trauma" bit I think can be summed up by deep catches, being played out, deep mouth/gill hooks, and fish handling (most of that was summed up above).

Stu can have one fish meal per trip. Good for him. When I go, I hope to eat fish every day. I don't keep everything I catch. Large fish go back in the lake regardless...there is just too much meat on a big fish for two guys.

I'm one of the people who think the smallies are taking over a lot of the northern lakes. I don't hesitate taking and eating smallmouth even if my paddling partner doesn't eat bass.

I know that pregnant women aren't supposed to eat fish due to contaminants. I get this and that sort of thing should not be risked regardless of location. That said, for the rest of us, the water up there is very pure, where the water is coming from is very pure. I don't think twice about drinking straight from some of the lakes up there, and as for fish contamination, it is a non-thought.

Fish regulations are in place for a reason. Follow them and the fish population should do just fine.
  
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Re: EAting fish in BWCA/Quetico
Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 2:16am
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I want to thank Stu for giving us something we ALL can agree on!  Go Stu! 

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