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Reply #20 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:14pm
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portage dog wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:03pm:
Gonna try something new this year - WabPP in first part of August.  I'm interested to see how accurate the low usage numbers really are. 

I've giving some thought to doing a Wabakimi trip in 2013.  I'd be interested in your take on traffic levels.  Seems to be a significant number of fly-in lakes and cabins (not to mention motor boats and caches).  I'd also like to hear your experience in your east to west movement with respect to predominant wind direction. 

The east side route I've been looking at would likely start just east of Collins and head north to Sliderock and maybe as far north as Whitewater before turning south toward Caribou.  However, given the current train schedule, doing it east to west (like you) does make more sense.

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Reply #21 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 11:39pm
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PD & DD,
I did a 3 week trip into Wabakimi last summer (August 11 - September 1.)  The park is a place of extraordinary beauty.  Being that it is boreal forest it is quite different from Quetico.  The fishing, for me at least, was phenomenal.  It is wally heaven but, as PD pointed out, too far north for smallies.  In the first 19 days we were out we saw a grand total of 2 other canoes neither of which were close enough to actually talk to.  That being said, the park is infested with fishing lodges.  In fact, in some ways the park is more geared towards fly-in fishing than canoe tripping.  In that regard I found the park very disappointing.  I really don't want to paddle for days only to find myself surrounded by the buzz of motor boars hauling fishermen around looking for the perfect place to drop their line.  I have to say, however, that because of the forest fires last summer, our trip had to be rerouted from the northern portion of the park to the southern - we went from Allan Water Bridge up through Brennan and Lower Wabakimi to Smoothrock and out through Little Caribou - so it might be that in the northern portions of the park there are less lodges and therefore less power boat traffic.  Still, I found it a long way to go only to feel like I was in Muskoka - okay I'm exaggerating a bit.  This year we're trying WCPP (August 9 - 31) which I'm hoping has all the beauty and low canoe traffic of Wabakimi without the lodge traffic.  Harlan tells me that the lodges, such as they are in WCPP, are located north of the Bloodvein so I'm expecting we'll be clear of all that based on a long loop we plan to do starting down at Leano Lake.  Plus, whereas Wabakimi fishing is restricted to Walleye and Pike, WCPP also has Lakers and even bass in a few of the southern lakes.  Last year we took the train instead of driving and boy was that fantastic.  We'll be doing that again this summer - an adventure within an adventure.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 1:58am
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Kerry -

My notes say that you should have been able to find lakers in Wabakimi in lakes like Wabakimi, Smoothrock and Whitewater.

I've made trips for Woodland Caribou for the past three years.  The first two used Leano as an EP (first trip returned to Leano after a east-west loop; other exited a Onnie after a jog north).  Last year I went in via Garner (Manitoba side).  What you may find is that while pike is almost everywhere, there is frequently an either/or with lakers and walleye.  But from my experience, the size you'll find could easily be a step up from Quetico.  I suspect the boreal forest will look familiar in Woodland Caribou.  As for contact with other humans, it might just be the luck of the draw.  On my first trip (which also included Jimbo, Kingfisher, Magicpaddler, Quentin and a few others ... in two parties), I actually put an eyeball on 2 other canoes of a 2 week trip outside the EP lake.  The follow year (a solo), I stopped counting after 18 people on a 10 day trip.  Last year, it was kind of in between and in lumps.  (Actually spent 2 nights on a campsite with a group out of Winnipeg ... I'd been sharing e-mails with its leader pre-trip.)  On my solo trip, it seemed like I was only hitting "lodge lakes" after a while ... Hansen, Glenn, Telescope, and Optic on my out-bound journey.

If you need other info (Harlan is an excellent resource), let me know.  I don't know everything there is to know about the park after 3 trips, but I think I have a pretty descent feel for the area.

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Reply #23 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 3:00pm
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In WCPP it is easy to avoid motor traffic. Most of the commercial outposts are on the Gammon and Bloodvein River. Even when you are near the outposts they are not much of an issue. Those people are there to fish and that is what they do, usually very quietly. Check this guide for a map showing the commercial outposts. You can plan to avoid them but also know that in case of dire emergency you may be glad there are some out there.  Donald Lake on the Gammon River has commercial outposts but none show up on the map in this guide.   (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #24 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 2:10am
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Hmmm...current plan is late June/early July; Stanton Bay; B-chain; Ram; Antoine; Lonely; Walter; Eliz; Jesse; Oriana; Batch; Nym.  Just me & my 18 yr old son for his graduation present.  Might get some Hennesy's as a bonus.
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Reply #25 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 5:04am
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Two trips again this year (as I've been doing since 2009).

May 23-June 6 (2 weeks): In at Little Indian Sioux, up through LLC, across to Iron Lake, back down through Gun-Boot-Fourtown-Horse-Mudro.  Total about 65 miles.  Solo.

Early September (10 days): In and out at Sea Gull, via Red Rock, Kekekabic and points in between.  Total about 45 miles, possibly with company, otherwise solo.
  
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Reply #26 - Mar 1st, 2012 at 6:39pm
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BWCA EP32 toward the end of August for about a week.  Took my adult son for the first time last year and he's now hooked.  We will go tandem!

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Reply #27 - Mar 2nd, 2012 at 4:24pm
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My son and I are going for a week beginning the 4th of July. In at Black Robe then Minn, the Darky River, Darky, Argo, the Roland chain, Crooked, Iron and out at Bottle.

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Reply #28 - Mar 3rd, 2012 at 1:56am
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dd,

I will let you know how the trip turns out.  We're outfitting through Wildwaters for boats and misc., otherwise bringing our own gear.  We definitely chose east to west because of the train and travel involved.  Westbound means you're leaving in the dark.  If we were close enough to drive and get there at a decent hour, we might have gone that route. 

kerry,

Thanks for you input.  I might pick your brain for a few more details and advice if you don't mind.  Like dd mentioned, the outfitter tells me there are some laker lakes.  I'm hoping for that.  I'm happy to hear the fishing is that good - we're expecting they'll just jump in the boat! 

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Reply #29 - Mar 3rd, 2012 at 8:11pm
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Sorry, Portage Dog, I actually mis-spoke.  There are a few Laker lakes - Wabakimi and Smoothrock being two of them.  But they're big lakes and I don't travel with a depth finder so I had no idea where to look (especially late in the summer when I was there.)  But anyway, for me Walleye are easier to find and there was never a shortage.  If you let me know your route and what lakes you plan to be on (if it overlaps with where we were) I'd be happy to pass on whatever I know.
  
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