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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 7:20pm
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I would say that the key to eating healthy and well on canoe trips is owning a dehydrator.  For a relatively small initial cost you can decide for yourself the quality of the food you eat.  I prefer to eat organically and locally grown foods and with a dehydrator I can do both and take meals that are delicious, nutrious and lightweight.  My wife and I like to eat well and on our 3 week trips it's gourmet all the way with chilis, stews, borschts and soups, re-fried beans and dozens of other dishes, not to mention all sorts of fruits and vegetables dried fresh and in season.  Of course this is all boosted with fresh fish and berries.  We also take a variety of peas and beans that we sprout as we go for something truly fresh.  With a dehydrator you can completely get away from processed foods and all that freeze dried crap which tends to be flush with preservatives and more often than not, foul tasting to boot.  By the way, if you really want to get into it try using a reflector oven.  We took one with us for the first time last summer and it was sooooo cool - date nut loaf, corn bread, home made chocolate brownies (no package mixes for us!) - mmmmmm!  The only things we don't bring are table cloths, candelabra and a roving violinist to set the mood (we'll just have to be satisfied with loons and wolves, I guess.)
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 8:11pm
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Here, you can get yourself a tiny chandelier for your tent.  Dine in style!
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Dehydrators are awesome.  Better food.  Saves money too.
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 8:44pm
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[quote author=Preacher link=1332808015/11#11 date=1332879114]Here, you can get yourself a tiny chandelier for your tent.  Dine in style!
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Dare I say it, my search is over.
Hey wait a minute, Preacher, you think I don't see what you're trying to do?  You're telling me to bring food into my tent so I'll get eaten by bears.  I'm on to you, Preacher.  Watch your back.
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Reply #13 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:57am
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Kerry wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 7:20pm:
I would say that the key to eating healthy and well on canoe trips is owning a dehydrator.  For a relatively small initial cost you can decide for yourself the quality of the food you eat.  I prefer to eat organically and locally grown foods and with a dehydrator I can do both and take meals that are delicious, nutrious and lightweight.  My wife and I like to eat well and on our 3 week trips it's gourmet all the way with chilis, stews, borschts and soups, re-fried beans and dozens of other dishes, not to mention all sorts of fruits and vegetables dried fresh and in season.  Of course this is all boosted with fresh fish and berries.  We also take a variety of peas and beans that we sprout as we go for something truly fresh.  With a dehydrator you can completely get away from processed foods and all that freeze dried crap which tends to be flush with preservatives and more often than not, foul tasting to boot.  By the way, if you really want to get into it try using a reflector oven.  We took one with us for the first time last summer and it was sooooo cool - date nut loaf, corn bread, home made chocolate brownies (no package mixes for us!)

Funny.  I did a bit of shopping today.  Mexicali Rose Refried Beans was on the list of items to pick up ... beef and bean burritos are usually very tasty a few days in on a trip.  Rehydrate the salsa and ground sirloin (after cooking in some seasonings), but I still haven't found a way to successfully transport avocados to the bush.

Corn bread, of course, along with biscuits and fry bread!  Brownies, maybe.  But I'm thinking more in terms of banana nut bread, poppy seed  or maybe blueberry muffins.  I've done those with my home built reflector oven ... to which I added a rack this weekend (already thinking about pizza).  BTW:  Last season I did blueberry muffins for breakfast, cooked in a stainless steel cup using the steam bath method.  Those were some HUGE moist muffins!!

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Reply #14 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:49pm
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"We also take a variety of peas and beans that we sprout as we go for something truly fresh."

hah! sprouts - that brings back memories of days gone by on backpacking trips - not me, but it used to be fairly poplular.

here is a source for organic freeze dried (or maybe its dehydrated?)   

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Reply #15 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 2:47am
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Hi again
I am underwhelmed at the responses so far. I hoped that there were a few more serious foodies in QJ.  Kerry's advice was solid and  I am generally following his advice but I was looking for a bit more depth. Are Quetico fish mercury free? I personally believe if you don't eat organically, cancer is in your future and may be anyway from the carcinogenic bath industrial civilization living entails. The least you can do is make an effort not to ingest chemicals or put them on your skin. Canoe trip eating is easier when giving in to the temptation to eat a lot of processed, preserved foods but it degrades the experience for me. I have a dehydrator and have done ingredients for spaghetti and soups.  I was really hoping to kick start a conversation  with a few like minded foodies who have found great things that work for them to maintain their healthy eating habits while Quetico tripping. As much as personally like MT and very much would like to spend a day fishing with him in Kawnipi so I can explain to him in detail why, when Jesus comes back to earth he will for sure be a socialist community organizer, his hunting advice was not helpful to the conversation. I have one meal I do repeatedly. Spaghetti made by sauteing fresh onions and garlic in olive oil then adding H2O and re hydrating tomatoes first, then adding celery, green and red peppers with Italian seasonings. Then adding tomato powder (available at food co-ops) and more H20 if necessary and some red wine. After simmering for 10 minutes or so this is fantastic. Whole wheat organic noodles and some freshly grated Parmesan can  be produced in prodigious quantity to make a 2000 calorie meal if needed.
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Reply #16 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 2:49am
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PS
Mary Janes freeze dried foods are incredibly expensive.
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Reply #17 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 5:22am
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Jon wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 2:47am:
Are Quetico fish mercury free?

Perhaps that question was simply rhetorical but what the heck. Here's a handy map to get an idea of consumption advisories based on measured levels of Mercury, PCBs, mirex/photomirex, pesticides ... -I think Mercury alone is the main issue in Quetico.
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Hey, wait a minute. Mercury is organic right? Guess that free range swimming protein is good to go then. Abbondanza!  Cheesy
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:10pm
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"Hi again
I am underwhelmed at the responses so far. I hoped that there were a few more serious foodies in QJ.  Kerry's advice was solid and  I am generally following his advice but I was looking for a bit more depth. Are Quetico fish mercury free? I personally believe if you don't eat organically, cancer is in your future and may be anyway from the carcinogenic bath industrial civilization living entails. The least you can do is make an effort not to ingest chemicals or put them on your skin. Canoe trip eating is easier when giving in to the temptation to eat a lot of processed, preserved foods but it degrades the experience for me. I have a dehydrator and have done ingredients for spaghetti and soups.  I was really hoping to kick start a conversation  with a few like minded foodies who have found great things that work for them to maintain their healthy eating habits while Quetico tripping."


well, to each his own, but you come across like a nutcase to me -

most people on QJ are more interested in canoeing for the canoeing or fishing experience rather than looking for an organic experience
  
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Reply #19 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 1:26pm
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Mad_Mat wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:10pm:
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well, to each his own, but you come across like a nutcase to me -

most people on QJ are more interested in canoeing for the canoeing or fishing experience rather than looking for an organic experience

Hey Max, chill.  Just because a person wants to eat well while enjoying a canoe trip doesn't make them a nut case, surely.  I know, I know, "don't call me Shirley."  But seriously, when I'm out there for 3 plus weeks I want to eat well.  And why not.  It's just as easy to eat good healthy and delicious meals as to eat crap.  Given the choice, I choose the former and I'm guessing I'm not alone.  Of course you can call me crazy when you see me, I'll be the guy stuffing his face with home made (organic) corn bread and killer (organic) chili.
Jon, as to whether the fish are mercury laden.  At this point in our earth's history, all fish are no matter that they're wild.  But I'm a lot better off eating smaller fish like Walleye than Tuna.  The higher on the food chain and the older (larger) the fish, the more mercury and other contaminants you're likely to find.  That being said, I'm past 60 and at this point I'm aware that there are too many things that can kill me to worry about all of them.  Sometimes you just pays your money and takes your chances.  No way I'm going into the wilderness and not eating fresh caught fish.  No way.
  
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