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Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:26am
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Has the topic of eating organically while canoeing been discussed? As I personally become more committed to eating organically I find it difficult to travel by conventional means. So I am interested in others attempts to eat organically while canoeing.
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Reply #1 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 12:39am
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Wow... total failure here.  All healthy food consumption is suspended when I'm in the bush!

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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 1:26am
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Would be interested to know your definition of "eating organically".  Do you mean whole foods, all fresh foods, only foods/animal products grown with totally organic farming methods. . .???

For sixteen years we did canoe-tripping while trying to adapt our canoeing diet to the kidney disease diet.  Low sodium, low potassium, low protein, all within the parameters of a diet for a person with insulin-dependent diabetes.  That was a challenge.

It is hard for me to imagine trying to do "organic", but then, I thought we couldn't do/wouldn't survive the kidney diet either, and we did. 

I will be watching to see what sort of replies you get to this query.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 1:41am
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I am now at the point where I prefer to only eat foods grown organically. Free range,  grass fed meat. No pesticides. Anyone else doing this in the Quetico? And how?

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Reply #4 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 2:44am
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100% fish out of the lake is organic
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:29am
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Free range? Grass fed? Indeed.....the good stuff!

Your options are rather limited as I believe firearms are prohibited in the Quetico. But all is not lost. Location is everything. The selected tree must near enough to the game trail to assure the proper trajectory. The limb from which you would propel yourself must be high enough to avoid detection but low enough that should you "miss" your intended target you would not sustain severe injury.

As for the method of dispatch.......well they all have their devotees. Personally I'm a spear man but some of the more modern methods include the knife between the teeth and/or the lasso.

Avoid yelling on the descent. This may spook your quarry. Brightly colored bandanas are a no-no. Also avoid the male species as they sport a particularly nasty set of defensive capabilities arrayed on top of their head.......can't miss it. And lastly I suggest the smaller varieties. If you do decide for some of the larger specimens meandering about be sure and take 2 spears and perhaps a knife.......and a slingshot......a club might also come in handy.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 2:46pm
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I'm a big believer that we are what we eat, or don't eat.
I also believe that the closer we can get to eating things that are not overly processed the better off we'll be.

However like most things, the Devils in the details. Just becasue something is billed as organic or the guy selling it says it is, doesn't mean your getting what you think you are?

The difference price wise between organic food and "processed" food is considerable. Make sure your getting what your paying for.

I Googled Organic food, pros/cons and there are numerous articles addressing it.

In the BWCA/Q, you can't go wrong with fresh fish for a high quality protein source. I like to make my own food mixes sans preservatives.

Wild rice or anyone of the complex grains you can buy at health food stores/Internet in bulk can be partially cooked/dehydrated and reconstituted in camp with a little effort.

Do your experimenting at home, not in camp.
I have an old edition of the One Burner Gourmet a bible for back packers.
I just substitute whole grains for processed and made adjustments in the seasonings to cut back on the sodium.

You can eat as healthy as you want with a little effort. Leaving out the preservatives shortens the shelf life, but a little planning takes care of that.

 

Get a good dehydrator and a book detailing how to make your own trail food.
You'll save money and can tailor your meals to your taste and individual diet requirements.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 3:56pm
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If you check your local rules for what qualifies as 'Organic' you may be surprised & disappointed.

Definitely eat reasonably healthy!  A varied diet, smart carbs (squash vs potatoes), whole proteins, good fibre, blablabla...

Yeah I'm the double-blind study as the Gold Standard guy that declares proof beats belief every time.  Folks are welcome to believe what they want and to pay triple the price for a banana that your body can't tell the difference and doesn't care.  Organic food marketing is a source of amusement for me.

Much of the regulations are subject to interpretation and represent a point-in-time.  Fertilisers & pesticides for example.  No farmer can be successful without them, but which ones fit the definition for Organic?  What has been discovered since the point-in-time that renders the list punitive or unreasonable?


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For food on a trip I am careful to ensure that my daily diet contains good sources of calories.  High protein with complete proteins is paramount, only protein can repair.  Since I avoid meat as a staple on trips I supplement protein with TVP & tofu.  Getting complete proteins without meat.

Solo tripping offers its own challenges.  I find I eat a lot less while solo.  Eating becomes a chore.  I know I must eat to keep my energy up and to repair my body after a long day of hauling gear.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 5:30pm
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If your looking to eat healthier at home and while tripping, you should take the time to see what is and isn't just media hype or the fad of the day.

This link provides some useful information about Protein from Lean meats and Vegetables as well as dangers from both and other important info.

Don't think that lean meat is better or that vegetable protein is either. Both have pluses/minuses and that should be taken into account when you make your food choices.

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Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2012 at 6:21pm
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You may want to look into taking fresh and frozen foods with you.  Kondos has an insulated food pack that supposedly works pretty well.  Of course this increases weight, and during the hotter months will only keep food cold for 4-5 days, so isn't completely reliable for a long trek.

There are plenty of organic, relatively shelf-stable options out there at Whole Foods and other similar retailers.  Plus, you can always make your own energy bars, granola, etc.
  
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