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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #10 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:38pm
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When I worked commercial construction, I learned to tie things down from roof top racks to flatbed trailers.
Those ratcheting straps are a God send  and make the job much easier for people with limited experience.

Not everyone has them and IF you don't have them or those flat nylon canoe straps with the cam lock buckles, your going to be going old school and use ropes alone.

Whatever you do, don't tie your expensive canoe(s) down with cheap clothesline rope that stretches when wet and doesn't have enough load strength to do the job. I see people using Para-Cord becasue it's rated #550 in the military spec style but that's a poor choice as well. It's strong as hell, but it stretches under load and you don't want that.

Buy some decent rope at the Home Depot and check it's load strength and just as importantly whether it will stretch significantly. Most rope sold precut has a chart on package that tells you what it's good/bad for, pay attention to it.

A great knot for bow/stern lines as well as a line(s) over the canoe, is the Trucker Hitch. It's simple to tie and re-adjust if needed and you get a mechanical advantage with it. That means when you snug it up and tie it off you don't lose tension like you do on many other styles of knots.
It's popular for a reason. Everyday truckers secure loads with it and trust it.
Something worth learning IMHO.

Excellent around camp for guy lines/tarp ropes, just about any camp application.
There are other knots better for specific tasks, but for an overall knot that is easy to tie and untie, the Trucker Hitch is hard to beat.
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #11 - May 29th, 2012 at 7:07pm
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Drewfus wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 5:08pm:
Azalea,

I have the same set up on my chevy suburban. The ropes when not in use tuck into the frame inside the engine compartment.

I built a rack last year to help hold two canoes on the roof more securely. It has blocks on the outer edges to prevent the canoes from shimmying off the roof rack bars. Then two ratcheting straps go over the canoe/s and have bow tie down (mentioned above) and rear tiedown to the trailer hitch.

My first solo experience started off with massive tie down problems. It seemed no matter how tight I tied everything, the canoe was still dancing on the roof. Cross winds were blowing 20-30 from Ely to Int'l Falls. I had to stop every 30 minutes or so and re-tie. Most of my problem was not knowing how to properly secure the canoe to the roof. That experience taught me a lot.


I had the exact same thing happen on my first solo trip.  Frankly, I figure I was lucky that nothing bad happened...just a very long and very tedious drive that raised my blood pressure immensely.
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #12 - May 29th, 2012 at 7:10pm
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When traveling any distance with my boats, I have always used  Thule or Yakima racks with the canoe  brackets.  Once the brackets are fitted to the gunnels and strappend down, those boats don't budge. The canoes brackets are worth there weight in gold! I then tie them down at the bow and stern.  Solid as a rock.  They have gone over the Mackinaw Bridge and the Duluth Bridge in high winds and don't even budge.   

On the other hand, I don't paddle aluminum canoes.  If I did, I probably wouldn't care as much if it came off the car (as long as it didn't hurt anyone).  From the way I see people drag those boats over the rocks in the back country, I'm surprised people don't just drag them home behind the car.   Huh
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #13 - May 30th, 2012 at 10:44pm
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Like Paddle Guy, I have a Thule rack with the canoe brackets.  The under hood attachment points with some cordage are great ideas.  Thule and other suppliers actually sells some devices for use under hoods/trunks/rear hatches that can be temporary such as these (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) or ones that you can bolt underhood thru a grommet and leave permanent and out of the way when not in use as suggested, like these (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) .  They look easy enough to make on your own with a bit of craftiness and some handiwork, althought the price isn't out consideration, weighing the potential consequences. 

Nice thing about those aluminum canoes....you can always get some money back out of them from the recycler no matter how bent up they are!  Grin

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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #14 - May 31st, 2012 at 4:35pm
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great idea, and you're right, (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) are simple enough to make
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #15 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:34pm
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I've made the grommet type, but eventually they can break,,,,UV exposure I guess. So replace them every once in a while.
I had one give out again recently. I should have replaced it, since the other side did it earlier,,,duh.
Anyway since I didn't have a grommet tool, I bought a set of the Thule temporary ones $$$ Tongue. I notice it can pull on the hood sheet metal. So IMO the grommet type is stronger. Just inspect the strap periodically.
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:17pm
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People, canoes, and cars are so various that it's hard to describe a system that will work for everyone. On the truck I use to carry my canoe I finally broke down and drilled holes in the ends of the bumper and mounted stainless steel eye bolts. That gives me some great tie down points to secure the canoe at the bow and stern. Along with a loop that goes around the belly of the canoe and is secured at each end to the forward shackle of the leaf springs. What ever system you come up with I would suggest that you try it out at home, put the canoe up there and drive around a bit. Let the wind and motion of the car play with your lashings and then pull over and check things over. It's always surprising to see what you thought was a bomb proof system starting to unravel, but it can then be improved with out much strain. When I'm on the road for real I do the same thing at every rest stop, just for insurance.
I have a good old truck that is pretty much dedicated to canoe camping, I wish I knew of a paint shop that specialized in making a truck look like a leprous piece of junk. Something that no one would covet. In fact so bad looking folks would park far away just on the off chance it was catching!
Best Wishes, Rob
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:52pm
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And then there's this method, spotted in the parking lot of the French Lake Visitor Centre about 20 years ago...
  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:53pm
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Wire loop attached under hood ...

  
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Re: How to tie a canoe to a car 101
Reply #19 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 4:12am
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Oldie Moldy,
You are right.  Drilling a hole in your bumper for an I-bolt works great.  I have done it on 4 of my vehicles.  I haven't drilled holes in my current vehicle, a Honda Odyssey, because I have a trailer hitch in back and a tow hook in front, plus there is a lot of plastic on the bumper which gets in the way.  But I thought several times that I should drill a hole in the front bumper because it gives such a great tie down point.
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