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LaSargenta
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Planning a NE BWCA Trip at the end of August
Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:31pm
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Hey all, I've just joined and have been searching these fantastic archives of trips.

I'm planning a trip for the last week of August and have my entry permit for Lizz Lake. It is only going to be a 4 night trip, not planning on making it too strenuous as I'm bringing my son who -- while intrepid and a born wanderer -- is only 10. So, the bulk of the portages are on my *cough* shoulders.

Entry will be after canoing across Poplar (how is the wind there?), into Lizz. Probably camp on Lizz, but then portage into Caribou the next day, camp and fish (I hope) for 2 days. Then back the way we came. Or IF the weather is fantastic and IF the pixie is hooked on canoeing and IF the portages go well, I was wondering about doing a one-way trip continuing into Horseshoe/Brule River, then Jake, exiting at Morgan Lake. Can we do one-way trips on a regular permit? I can't remember. Been too many years since I was there.

Last time was 1982. 1983 in the Q.

Looking for opinions...good, bad, indifferent...especially if there is any recent experience with the portages in that neck of the woods. Blowdowns?

  
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Re: Planning a NE BWCA Trip at the end of August
Reply #1 - Jun 30th, 2012 at 5:46pm
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Hi LaSargenta,

Since I am one of the few BWCA folks on this board, perhaps I should try to respond to your query.  Lizz is a favorite entry point of ours, and you have chosen a good trip for you and your ten-year-old.  Poplar could be a problem in the wind, but I would say it isn't usually a big deal.  Any larger lake can be a challenge if the wind kicks up, and the best advice would be to get on the lake early in the day.  At least that is the best advice for most days.   Wink

You need to be sure that you are looking at BWCA maps.  There is no campsite on Lizz.  Lizz is just a small entry lake and then you portage into Caribou.  Your first opportunity for a campsite would be on Caribou.

Caribou is a lovely lake and has some nice campsites.  If you base-camp there, you will enjoy it, I am sure.  But if you decide to go on, Horseshoe is a neat lake, too.  There are some nice campsites there, and it is often a good place to see moose.  We have had several moose sightings on Horseshoe on different trips.  Vista is also a beautiful lake and the campsite on the southern end is first-class (but hard to find vacant.)

How about staying on Horseshoe and making a day trip over to Gaskin??  Just another possibility?  Gaskin also has some nice campsites, and some lovely scenery.  We don't fish, so I can't give guidance about fishing in these lakes.

I am a bit puzzled by your comments about going out at Jake and Morgan.  Yes, you can do a one-way trip.  But you would have to have someone pick you up at your final destination, or spot a vehicle there.  This would have to be a decision you made before your trip, not "IF the pixie is hooked on canoeing and IF the portages go well".  And, frankly, I think if it is just you and the ten-year-old, that might be a rather ambitious plan for the first time in so many years.  Just my two cents.

No matter how you do it, you have chosen a very beautiful part of the BWCA, and one where you should see some wildlife and have a great time!  Have a fun trip!
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Re: Planning a NE BWCA Trip at the end of August
Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 5:48pm
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Thanks for the reply Spartan2. Yes, I misremembered which campsites I was thinking of when I wrote that post. (Reminder to Self: Multi-tasking is NOT a good idea! Especially when the map isn't next to me.) Caribou. Definitely Caribou. Glad to know it is as nice as I thought it might be. I was in that area (little to the east and north) in the winter (Feb) of 2001 with Arleigh Jorgenson's dogs for a week. Realized I hadn't canoed there in waaaaay too long. There was a lot of snow on the ground and lots of wind in some places, so I was making guesses as to how it would look in the summer. It was also, lucky us!, a cold snap and I wasn't pulling the compass out at every lake to help me picture light at the other side of the seasons. I do hope to get in early in the day, both for avoiding wind and general campsite reasons.

I haven't talked with any outfitters yet, so I haven't arranged for a dropoff/pickup. I need to do more planning about where to leave the car, etc., etc. I was completely unclear in my post -- I didn't mean change my mind once we were in, but just closer to the time when my son and I've gone over more scenarios and I have a better idea of how the weather is behaving (and, yeah, I'm very experienced in how weather can change...in my biz we say "Mother Nature bats last.") I definitely wasn't firing on all cylinders last Friday.

I will need an outfitter to rent a canoe from, at the least. I also need to contact the Gunflint Station, confirm opening times, get more maps than just the McKenzie (which I already have), and figure out which stuff I'm bringing with me and which I'll get there. I've already ruled out flying. Dealing with all the baggage through the TSA and at least one plane change wasn't appealing.

Any particular recommendations for the outfitter for a canoe?
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 7:54pm
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I think I would recommend Rockwood Lodge as outfitter.  Mike and Lin are the owners there and they have a good outfitting business, cabins, etc. and also a nice bunkhouse where you could stay the night before if that interests you.  A good safe place to park your car, or I am sure they would shuttle a car for you.  They are close to the entry point on Lizz, and should have any information you need, and any gear you wish to rent.

We are staying in one of their cabins this August for a week with our granddaughter and did so last year as well.  We haven't used an outfitter in many, many years, and never for an entirely outfitted trip, but I would have confidence in recommending Mike and Lin. 

You can also arrange to pick up your permit at the outfitter if that is more convenient for you.  Didn't know if you knew that or not.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 5th, 2012 at 1:48pm
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Thanks, I will look into them. The gear I need is a 'lightweight' canoe and paddles. We'll have everything else. (If I fly, though, I won't be taking my fuel canisters. So, that would also be needed.) And, no, I did not know I could pick up the permit through an outfitter.

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Reply #5 - Jul 5th, 2012 at 5:47pm
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Once you have an outfitter, it might be easier and cheaper (vs extra airline baggage fees, and hauling stuff thru an airport) to ship your gear UPS to the outfitter - or to yourself c/o general delivery at nearest P.O.   

  just a thought
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 5th, 2012 at 7:03pm
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LaSargenta wrote on Jul 5th, 2012 at 1:48pm:
Thanks, I will look into them. The gear I need is a 'lightweight' canoe and paddles. We'll have everything else. (If I fly, though, I won't be taking my fuel canisters. So, that would also be needed.) And, no, I did not know I could pick up the permit through an outfitter.

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You are most welcome.  Rockwood Lodge (I don't think I mentioned it) is right on Poplar Lake, on the Gunflint Trail out of Grand Marais.  1-800-942-2922.  If I have a lot of questions, I would ask for Mike.

And Mad Mat's suggestions are probably spot on, also.  We have never flown to the canoe country, so I didn't even think of that.   Wink
  
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