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Reply #20 - May 24th, 2013 at 10:20pm
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mastertangler wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 10:00am:
Yup, loomis rods float.........

Loomis rods do float and when I rolled my boat in Isle Royale I put two of them into the drink. Miraculously I never lost them as they bobbed along behind the boat as I towed it to shore (almost like obedient puppies, sorta weird ).

 


What!?!  They most certainly do not float!
  
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Reply #21 - May 25th, 2013 at 11:22am
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Pascanell wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 10:20pm:
What?! They most certainly do not float!
 


   Hmmm.......looks like someone had a little different experience.
To achieve the correct gravitational pull that such weapons deserve let me ask you a few questions.

*what do you feed your rods?
*How often do you speak soothing, kind and encouraging words to them?
*do your rods sleep in your bed or or they out in the garage?
*how often do you polish your rods (furniture polish works wonders)?

These questions and others like unto them provide vital clues as to why rods decide to leave home  Wink
  
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Reply #22 - May 25th, 2013 at 2:42pm
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Shocked I actually called G Loomis/Shimano and the girl on the other end took a few minutes (she was laughing so hard it took her a bit to gain her composure) to explain that although the quality is still amazing, they do not float.  Then she asked me to hold and called over some engineers and put me on speaker phone and continued to make fun of me for the remainder of the call.

And to answer your question, you are correct.  I don't polish my rod very often anymore. Shocked
  
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Reply #23 - May 25th, 2013 at 6:12pm
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True story.......

Newell offshore reels are all graphite and I believe that helped quite a bit. The pelagic series rod has a hypolon grip and that probably helped as well. The kink in the offshore fiasco was that the reel was not engaged and when my Cuban friend snagged the line the combo was still in free spool. I thought all was still lost but he insisted that we pull the line in as fast as we could. Between the two of us pulling and very luckily no tide running I did get the combo back. I gave a very loud "thank you Lord" and then I squeezed the stuffing out of the Cuban fellow. The entire episode gained me some fame and I thought about getting a T-shirt made up...> "Yes, I'm the guy who threw his rod overboard"......... I cannot afford what I fish with and I certainly cannot afford to lose it.

The Loomis Muskie rod does indeed float and that with a fairly good sized bait caster attached. I suspect it is because the blank is so big it holds a lot of air. That and it has quite a bit of cork........very nice outfit to chuck big lures all day and not get wore out.

The other outfit was inside the boat I believe during my spill at Isle Royale. I can't remember for sure what rod it was but it stayed with me as well..........so did all my fishing tackle which was in an orvis pack and stuffed under my seat. Even my bailer which I have had since day one a decade ago stayed along for the ride as well. 

Who are you going to believe........some engineer types or the guy who it happened to? Don't believe me? That is your prerogative. 

BTW......I do suggest taking furniture polish to your rods (and so do the engineers at Loomis  Wink ). They will shine up quite nicely and have a little protective coating. Also a little WD40 on a q-tip and apply at the base of your eyelets will help them last longer.
  
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Reply #24 - May 25th, 2013 at 6:36pm
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I have another story which shows both sides of the floating rod scenario.......

I took my sisters hippie dope smoking boyfriend on the Detroit river for a day of smallmouth fishing. I generally lay my rods on my rod lockers along the side of the boat. Well this genius rears back for a cast, snags one of my loomis bass outfits and launches it into the river,

The vision presented to me was quite surreal. Directly in front of me, in the water and sinking, was my rod and reel. I acted very quickly and set the loomis in my hand down and reached out to grab the fast disappearing rod. Unfortunately it was just out of reach of my outstretched hand. I committed and went in after it. On the way over I kicked my other rod in the water and broke my pouch containing my keys, wallet and money clip off on the gunnel.

I managed to grab the original rod and as I was getting right side up I felt the other rod bump against my arm and I grabbed it with my other hand. At the time I couldn't figure out where the other rod had come from and thought I was grabbing the other half of a 2 piece rod. It was only later did I figure out that I must have kicked in the other rod on my way over.

I surfaced with a rod in each hand and my pouch hanging loose on the gunnel. The whole thing was surreal and I would of given quite a chunk of cash to have had a video of the whole sorry episode. I was fortunate that I got everything back.

So you are at least partially correct Pascanell.........not all Loomis rods float (but some certainly do!)
  
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Reply #25 - May 26th, 2013 at 1:52am
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You are the Obi Wan of fishing....Have you ever fished without dumping all your gear in the water?
  
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Reply #26 - May 26th, 2013 at 6:31am
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mastertangler wrote on May 25th, 2013 at 6:12pm:
Newell offshore reels are all graphite and I believe that helped quite a bit.

Seriously? The gears and bearings and everything? What do they recommend for lubricant or don't they need any?
  
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Reply #27 - May 26th, 2013 at 11:35am
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db wrote on May 26th, 2013 at 6:31am:
mastertangler wrote on May 25th, 2013 at 6:12pm:
Newell offshore reels are all graphite and I believe that helped quite a bit.

Seriously? The gears and bearings and everything? What do they recommend for lubricant or don't they need any?


Don't be silly......the spool, side plates (other than a stainless outer ring) and housing are all graphite making the Newells tops in lightweight and corrosion resistance. A common mistake amongst the Newell crowd is to not lubricate the gears in their reels.

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Thanks Pascanell for the Obi Wan reference. Certainly one of the "good guys" and on the right team. I like talking fishing and am transparent here.......how about you? Or do we have just another sharpshooter who hides behind a rock waiting for an opportunity for a snide remark?
  
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Reply #28 - May 26th, 2013 at 1:27pm
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My point was, Obi Wan has a knack at dropping his light saber at inopportune times.  You seem to drop your gear in the water quite a bit.

Also, it sounds like you have a lot of very high end gear...good for you.  You should start your own topic. 
This topic began with a question about purchasing a decent fishing rod, suitable for a canoe trip and turned into a few bogus stories about extremely high end gear that floats and some Cuban guy.  So I ask, who is the sniper here?
  
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Re: I need a couple good rods
Reply #29 - May 26th, 2013 at 6:21pm
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Think what you want, rolled my boat once and some nitwit "helped" my stuff into the water.

You twice contested my comment that Loomis rods float going so far as to call Loomis (kinda weird if you ask me) and in essence calling me a fibber. Can't let that stand so we go your way and try to politely take the gloves off (or shall we say the light sabers on  Wink ).

I had tried to steer the conversation towards a bit of humor if you remember correctly.

In any event yes I do have more high end fishing stuff than a man of my meager means should have but the point being, and as I have already attempted to make, that it is more fun IMO to fish with quality gear.

And I will repeat my previous stance that IMO the best value for an exceptional quality rod at a good price is St. Croix and not Loomis.

But I agree........I would prefer not to use my light saber to have to deflect cheap shots. Hopefully the stories provided were at least mildly interesting as the biggest miscue is to be boring (which I do try and avoid).

Hopefully the dustup is over and we can go back to talking about what you refer to as "catfish rods". One thing is certain, the catfish rods are all but indestructible which reminds me of another story........did I ever tell you about the time my canoe partner broke BOTH his rods in the little beaver pond leading to Jeff? Well it happened this way............. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



  
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