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Portage etiquette?
Jun 17th, 2013 at 9:57pm
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I searched portage etiquette, rules, and behavior and nothing came up so I'm hoping there isn't a thread I've missed and I'm repeating a question. There is currently a heated discussion on portage etiquette on bwca.com and that's not what I'm interested in. I'd like polite feedback on people's opinions on portage etiquette. I've never had a back up on a portage in Quetico and maybe it is rare. I've had many on Algoqnuin and my approach is: Stay out in the water if people are moving along at a reasonable speed and will be out soon. Park your canoe very close to the portage and smile if they seem to be meandering, possibly ask if they mind if we get started if we keep to one side. When we unload we double portage so we always move everything up from the water and far off to one side. I have no objection to other people using the portage at the same time. May have to step aside if I meet someone with a canoe. Happy to help people carry stuff on my trip back for my second pack. During a 'girls trip' we walked a very long portage to see if we'd like to do it on another trip and met a lovely but bewildered and overwhelmed family from England and my friend and I offered to carry their very large and heavy canoe across the whole portage. I think they would have kissed our feet if we took our hiking boots off! When people are single portaging I never mind if they scoot past and get moving. I'm writing all this to see if we meet up with someone on a Quetico portage will this be appropriate behaviour? Haven't been to Quetico in years, and never had a back up on a portage so this may be a moot point.
Can you tell we're getting closer to our trip and Quetico is all I'm thinking about!!?
  
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Re: Portage etiquette?
Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2013 at 10:26pm
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I see portage "etiquette" about the same as the rules of driving a motor vehicle.
Common sense dictates you let faster moving "vehicles" pass you and you keep to "right" to keep the "lane" clear.

But we all know rudeness/lack of common sense is everywhere and depending on how bad the situation is and the response when I ask to "play thru". If I see the party are Newbies, I try and help them out.
IF I see they know better but don't give a damn, I politely ask them to open a thru lane and if that doesn't get a decent response, I rip them a new one Wink Grin
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2013 at 11:46pm
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Buried somewhere, deep in the archives, was once a thread on this very subject.  I think we even came up with the top 10 rules of portage etiquette.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 18th, 2013 at 12:02am
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Thank you both. If anyone knows how I can find the Top Ten Portage Rules, and if not wants to start listing them, I'd love to see what you come up with. I agree with letting fast traffic through, and helping bewildered/overwhelmed people, but not people who bring the kitchen sink and like to meander. My first trip into Alqonquin, after many in Quetico, my husband and I saw people with a card table, folding chairs, a metal cooler, etc..., etc... We were bug-eyed just watching. They were only going two small portages and base camping, and we've never done that so I don't know what I'd bring in that situation. A blowdryer and portable solar panel ??? Smiley
  
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Re: Portage etiquette?
Reply #4 - Jun 18th, 2013 at 5:55am
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PORTAGE ANXIETY noun
: a form of anxiety experienced by slow and/or unorganized BW/Q paddlers caused by the significant fear that the party who wants to pass (play through) at a portage will take the best campsite.... Oh relax. I'm a three tripper!

When searching this site, knowing who said what can be a decided advantage Wink and clicking the name of the person quoted will take you to that thread so you can read the quote in context.

Snow_Dog wrote on Jan 18th, 2007 at 9:27pm:
What a great thread!  Lots of great suggestions out there.

Just kind of pulling things together, I came up with this:

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF PORTAGING

1.  Plan Your Portage.  It doesn’t matter what your style is, single, double, triple, or more.  Have a plan before you start.  Modify the plan when you see a chance to improve it.

2.  Be Organized.  Busy portages are not the place to re-org all your gear.  Keep your gear tightly together if you leave any behind.

3.  Be Polite.  “Please” and “Thank You” go a long way, whether it’s within your group or with another group

4.  Be Courteous.  Keep your gear out of the way.  Yield the right-of-way to heavier loads or faster portagers coming up from the rear.

5.  Be Prepared.  Have a compass and saw handy on lightly-used portages

6.  Be Safe.  Don’t try to carry too much.  Help each other load/unload.  Watch your footing and don’t perform awkward movements
while you carry.

7.  Simplify.  Minimize the hand-carry stuff by strapping to canoes/packs

8.  Assign each item to a person.  Stuff gets left behind when responsibility is shared.

9.  No Whining.  You are having fun, remember?

10.  Respect Other Groups.  Their pace is right for them whether it’s faster or slower than yours.  Ask permission before helping them carry anything.



To that I'll add, when on the trail, the person wearing the canoe hat always has the right-of-way. And if that person decides he can and wants to be kind and step off to the side of the trail for two folks going the other way - just to be polite, say thanks and keep walking - don't stop and force him to chat because you are standing in his path and then point out he's covered in mosquitoes.
  
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Re: Portage etiquette?
Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2013 at 4:32pm
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The only portage issue that I see as a problem is a clogged put in or take out area of the landing.  If I can reasonably inject myself into the crowd on the portage I will land somewhat off to one side where no one else is and next, quickly move my gear and kayak a few yards up the trail and off to the side of the path.  Then proceed to get organized and merge into the traffic.
I am a three tripper too, so at the end of the portage I will stack my gear and kayak several yards back from the put in so it will not be in the way when I am not there.  I also use the leap-frog method of covering longer portages; when I set down my gear I make sure it is well out of the portage path but not too far off.  It is hard to lose my stuff as it is in bright colored packs: purple, red, yellow, etc.  If your pack is green or camo you might overlook it if it is too far off the trail.  On the rare occasion when another group's packs might look like mine, I keep a close eye the gear going into their canoe in case someone has picked up my pack by mistake.  I have had to retrieve my gear out of other folks canoes a couple of times when someone mistakenly loaded it.   
Personally I have no problem sharing the actual trail with others, stepping off for whoever is heavier loaded than I am.  It seems the BWCAW sort of promotes keeping groups segregated on the walk as well....on a busy portage that would make it take all day to accomplish!
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2013 at 10:32pm
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Thanks for digging that up, db!  I looked for it once not too long ago and couldn't seem to dredge it up.  I daresay it's still a good list of rules even a few years later.  Most importantly, everyone who participated in that thread really are the authors of that list.  I'm just the schlep who organized it.
  
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