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Reply #30 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:11pm
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MT,
For me the flat bottom puck is far easier to attach and remove. Have been using a Vexilar LC-10 with that style transducer for years. Mounting the transducer below the thwart directly in front of stern seat. Day 1, small dab of silicone on bottom of puck, press it down and it's good for the trip. Last Day, break out the 99 cent click knife and scrape/slice it off. That point of the boat suites the puck style better.

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Still don't understand how i missed it the first couple times i looked for it. one of those duh moments, and already had the question posted here. Happy fishing to you too! Without the depth finder, we're feeling around in a dimly lit room.
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Reply #31 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:27pm
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Back on the topic of power source.  I did a little research and ordered a Lithium Iron Phosphate Rechargeable Battery (LiFeP04) to power my Depth Finder.  It's the same size as the Lead Acid batteries many use for Depth Finders while ice fishing, but instead of 5lbs, its only 2.6 lbs.  I ordered a 10AH model with charger from here:
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(used a 12% off coupon found on the internet- battery12)
Pricey for sure, but I'm hoping the superior performance, capacity and weight will make up for it.
  
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Reply #32 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 6:21pm
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On the power issue, I found mixed results on the Lowrance Elite 4x. I made a battery pack that held 10AA batteries. The first set I used ran for about 12 hours total. However, after that when I turned the unit off I didn't disconnect the batts and I think there was some 'phantom' drain occuring, so I went through a set of batteries in about 4 hours when it was on.  My buddy and I did some math on it and decided that 10 D cells would give us the best weight,cost, and run time compared to a 12V motorcycle battery.
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 17th, 2014 at 12:58am
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What kind of batteries did you use?
  
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Reply #34 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 4:03pm
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I don't bring a fish finder, but who knows down the road?
I see that most here use a AA battery pack to power their devices.
I was just curious if anyone had tried using other type/size batteries?
Are the AA the best in relationship to power/life/weight?
Has anyone tried using other type batteries wired in series or parallel.
Maybe D, C or some 9 volt?

I did some Googling and from what I could gather it all depends on the device your trying to power and how long you want to use it.
  
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Reply #35 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 10:24pm
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solotripper wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

I did some Googling and from what I could gather it all depends on the device your trying to power and how long you want to use it.


You nailed it. 
I think for a particular chemistry you get more power per pound out of the bigger batteries but there is a lot of pounds there.  The AA’s are the only one you can get in lithium and lithium is lighter and more energy per pound.  Most of the detectors are made to operate on a automotive type battery.  Those detectors loose sensitivity when the battery voltage drops below 10 volts and they shut down at about 8 volts. You need 10 alkaline or 9 lithium in series to provide proper voltage. 
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 20th, 2014 at 1:28am
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What Magic says is all true, additionally we are finding that there is a fairly wide range of "normal" power consumption from the different types of locaters. Some or most of that has to do with factory or user programming. When you start using the more sophisticated locaters you will find that there is less voltage tolerance and greater power consumption if you want to take advantage of all the features provided by those devices.
Even on the most basic types of locaters these things affect power consumption:

Backlight, the #1 cause of battery drain (not counting leaving it turned on all night - I wish locaters would have an auto off feature). I would not use a locater that cannot have the backlight programmed to be off at all times, except when fishing at night of course.

Display screen type: Color and especially HD screens use more power. Black/white grayscale, though a bit trickier to interpret, use less.

Deep water use also requires more power. I'm not suggesting to never use it over deep water, just something to keep in mind if you're trying to conserve.

Alarms, turn them all off to save power. Nobody else really wants to hear them anyway.
  
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Reply #37 - Jan 20th, 2014 at 2:37pm
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Thanks MP + KF.
Some more dumb questions  Embarrassed

I understand that if you hook 2-9 v batteries in a series you get 18 volts?
I also see they now make 9 v in Lithium
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If you hook a fish finder to a 18 volt source will it damage it?
Now that they have 9 v Lithium, would it possible to use X amount hooked in a series to get the same run time as those 10 AA Lithium batteries.

I know your a "electrical guy" MP, so if you could get the proper voltage/ run time with using 9 v Lithium, is there a formula for comparing the run time at required voltage against the 10 AA set-up?

I don't have a Fish Finder and may never have one, but I always like to know/understand my options.
  
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Reply #38 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 6:35pm
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Magicpaddler wrote on Jan 17th, 2014 at 12:58am:
Drewfus
What kind of batteries did you use?


The AA's & D's were both energizer NmH batts, though I think one set of the AA's were generic brand and the performance difference was evident
  
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Reply #39 - Jan 22nd, 2014 at 4:07pm
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Kingfisher wrote on Jan 20th, 2014 at 1:28am:
What Magic says is all true, additionally we are finding that there is a fairly wide range of "normal" power consumption from the different types of locaters. Some or most of that has to do with factory or user programming. When you start using the more sophisticated locaters you will find that there is less voltage tolerance and greater power consumption if you want to take advantage of all the features provided by those devices.
Even on the most basic types of locaters these things affect power consumption:

Backlight, the #1 cause of battery drain (not counting leaving it turned on all night - I wish locaters would have an auto off feature). I would not use a locater that cannot have the backlight programmed to be off at all times, except when fishing at night of course.

Display screen type: Color and especially HD screens use more power. Black/white grayscale, though a bit trickier to interpret, use less.

Deep water use also requires more power. I'm not suggesting to never use it over deep water, just something to keep in mind if you're trying to conserve.

Alarms, turn them all off to save power. Nobody else really wants to hear them anyway.


Really enjoying this thread. I'm looking at a used 242 and from what I've read here and on the diy site, if I pick up the standard eagle cuda 242 I assume everyone here has just built their own portable battery pack with materials from the local hardware store. Is that right? Do you all just bungy-cord the battery pack to the finder or carry the whole unit in your own fanny pack or something similar? Just curious as to the actual set-up.
  
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