When I bought my house there was a patch of poison ivy on the side that took me years to fully get rid of. I don't see much of it in Q at all. I had a bad case in high school once. It was kinda worth it.

Ticks are most problematic in the W or SW in Spring. I just tuck my pants into my socks after the first tickle. That's the thing about ticks. They just keep crawling up up up, tickling all the way until they can't anymore and I've never just picked up one tick. Where there's one there is usually more.

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That's what I always told girlfriends and my wife.

As far as PMs go, they are for personal messages -as in stuff the group doesn't want or need to hear. Most people, including MT at times, use it rather effectively when they want to. I'll trade quality information for repetitious volume any day:
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YMMV.
There's a dozen more that come up in a search. Hey, they are probably great pants! I got no clue. Permethrin still seems like overkill to me too but hey, whatever works for folks. I don't even bring shorts anymore. I wear the same pants night and day the whole trip. Fashion faux pas - I know. I had to wash them this year. S tube of soap blew up in a pocket and I couldn't stand the smell.

I don't know your history with him but I do know that this board has a reputation and this thread highlighted some of that.

TomT wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 10:23pm:


No history Tom except here on the board. PJ objects to my "hey look at me, aren't I a swell guy" style of posts (fair enough) and I am confrontational to a fault to posts that I see as mean spirited wether directed at me or someone else. So we clash.

But I think we both understand that folk are seldom one dimensional screen beings but rather have "layers"

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db wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 6:36am:


db,

I'm sure the Moderator group would be interested in what you might learn, too.  Speaking as someone who has 34+ years of professional human resources experience behind him, I'd be very interested in learning more about the "reputations" earned by the vagaries & vicissitudes of our QJ membership.  If we have significantly deviated from some theoretical "norm" in some meaningful way (good or bad), I suppose the Mod team needs to share some "credit."

People walk away/disconnect/resign from websites for any number of reasons.  Often they simply can't deal with the diversity of perspectives, tones, & attitudes they encounter.  We certainly see all types on QJ!  Some of the disaffected become bitter about it and snipe away at the website (or some of its members) elsewhere in cyberspace.  It's their prerogative to do so, I suppose.  They can frame their story afresh and minus any contention OR they can simply hook up with other disaffected & commiserate.

I, for one, am glad we have a Moderator board to review &, possibly, deal with "extreme" behaviors.  Perhaps it should be more active; perhaps less active.  The only way we know the answer to that question is to hear from members, whether it be complaints or plaudits.  That includes the earning of "reputations" that members prefer we NOT have and wish to have addressed.

As for me, I'm going to keep plugging QJ (in articles I contribute to magazines, other forums, talking to other paddlers & such).  I am very much OK with having my name associated with it... regardless of whatever notoriety/reputation we may have earned along the way.  I am very happy with the preponderance of activity I see on this website.  That's not to say that we don't need to change things every once in awhile; I'm sure we do.

I guess I'm saying that - if we have a "reputation" - it must because the members want it that way.  Otherwise, I trust, we would be hearing more about making changes, interventions, etc..  Geez, from my POS ("point of skew", for the db & QJ uninitiated), when I listen to members about issues, about all I'm hearing is... crickets. 

In the QJ bygone days of yore, Mod interventions were more frequent (& necessary) due to gunfights & inappropriate content blooming here & there.  Lots of member complaints & issues came up... that's how you sort yourself out & decide what you're going to be when you mature, I guess.  And now we are what we are... for better or for worse. 

May we're too "tolerant" now?  I don't know.  Comparatively speaking, however, our current era of MT & PJ "sparring sessions" seems to me more like our halcyon years!

In summary, anything we might learn or do to improve the website, I'm all for it; always have been.  My guess is the other Mods feel pretty much the same way.  If folks have something to say, we'll listen & address it.

Jimbo   

I second Spartan II's point #5, and I'm not even conservative.

prouboy