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Re: Lesson #5 portaging
Reply #10 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:03am
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DentonDoc wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
Ahem.  Gentlemen, please!  (Its not even winter yet.)  dd


Anyone from Texas is disqualified from saying when it is or when it isn't winter in northern MN.  My tomatoes froze out yesterday.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 27th, 2013 at 10:58am
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How about this for a win-win PJ.......you post more and I'll post less? I like it lively, I like it entertaining, I like information and I like you and your postings (well, mostly  Wink )

I self promote for a reason. I'm transparent with a goal in mind. There is a method to the madness. There are going to be people who might take some interest and the end result is an expansion of my world. I believe in happening to life, not waiting around for it to happen to me.

Of course the pitfall is obvious. There are going to be folk who don't like what they see. I will be the first to admit there are plenty of warts which are hard to conceal.

But so be it.......that just has the added benefit of weeding out prospective accomplices early ("Hmmmm.......OK, that guy hates my guts, cross him off the list"....etc. etc.  Grin )




  
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Re: Lesson #5 portaging
Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 6:45am
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Alrighty then, now that that's settled, I use to dread portages but now I look forward to them as something different especially when that pesky sun is beating down on me. Plus they make my knees happy again.

I do three trips and always hand carry my camera case and paddles but one hand is always free to squish mosquitoes. I'm organized and my stuff is out of the way if you ever saw me on one. I'll even just wait for a bit if someone else is using the portage and I don't see or expect to see anyone coming. Because I'm not overloaded I can walk faster and always feel a little uncomfortable passing people with heavy loads on a portage.

I will put my map, compass, camera & lenses, tackle ( I am sometimes surprised at what's all laying out and around) away before reaching a landing but I want to hear more about the bow paddler putting on a pack in the canoe. I'd be dead set against that w/o seeing it in action first. I do put my juice bottle and knee pads in the food day-pack just before I portage it and pull them out as I load up along with the map and compass if needed. I normally do the canoe first because I just put the yoke on it and I have to pick it up one less time that way.

So, while I have sort of a system, every trip and every portage is different and I do them a little differently all the time. Length, difficulty, timing, mood and energy level all play a factor so I guess I should say I have systems. That's why I like to hear about all the other different ways people approach accomplishing the same thing. I'd much rather have someone pointing out that they think I'm doing wrong than a bunch of folks all saying +1.

Agreed. Dithering around with toys isn't exactly portage efficiency but hey, we're on vacation, not manufacturing widgets! The trip starts and ends at the same time anyway. How can enjoying yourself tremendously in the meantime be a waste of time? Ahhh therein lies the beauty of a solo, solo trip.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 1:12pm
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Jimmars self imposed portage guidelines:
1.Don’t block the landing.
2.Don’t run the canoe aground. Wet footing is fine by me.
3.Plan on a double.
4.Carry most of your $#!+ in a pack(s).
5.If someone is struggling and you are not, ask if you can carry some of their $#!+.
6.Get your $#!+ to the end of the portage, that’s where the fun is.
7.Don’t bring too much $#!+.
Keep it simple. Less time on land = more time on water.
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 2:41pm
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If feasible I stand in the water alongside the canoe. Bungee-dealee in my paddles, slip the pfd through the bow thwart, attach the yoke, grab the pack from the boat and onto my back, flip up the boat and a way we go.

Reverse the order on the other side.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 4:52pm
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db said he generally portages the canoe on the first leg. I generally (though not always) do the opposite - the canoe goes through on the second leg. That way I have an opportunity to scout out rock ledges, mud patches, downed trees or other features that might be more difficult to navigate if I came upon them cold with a canoe on my head.
  
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Re: Lesson #5 portaging
Reply #16 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 6:51am
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Phoenix wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 4:52pm:
db said he generally portages the canoe on the first leg. I generally (though not always) do the opposite - the canoe goes through on the second leg. That way I have an opportunity to scout out rock ledges, mud patches, downed trees or other features that might be more difficult to navigate if I came upon them cold with a canoe on my head.

What you are advocating makes perfect sense to me too and I do/did that as well.

The solos I've been borrowing recently are a joy to carry plus my saw is BDBed to a thwart. It's also my easiest load to get on and off by far.  I just need to remember to lift the bow to see what's ahead every so often.

The reason I say that is I have a fun (for me) story to tell from Baird to the noname towards Metacryst portage last trip. Unbenounced to me their are two portage paths to get there. One is high and dry the other is, umm, low and full of juice. I took the canoe first trip on the low road. Half way through I came to a rather large muddy section with no footprints. Fine. It's getting deeper as I go and by the fourth step I'm in past my knees and basically stuck. That's like my worst nightmare even with help around but there wasn't any.

I flipped the canoe off into the mud, used it to get myself out w/o losing a boot and used the painter to drag it to solid footing.

Oddly enough I know both portages now and the upper one better since I carried the canoe over both. Turns out at some point I remembered I left my rod and reel at the campsite and had to go back for it. DOH!
  
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Re: Lesson #5 portaging
Reply #17 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 9:30pm
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Biggest lesson I'm learning is that there are some fairly universal "no-go's" and to be flexible your portaging routine.

You can't change the terrain but you can change how you approach it.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 9:50pm
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db wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 6:51am:
... from Baird to the noname towards Metacryst portage last trip. Unbenounced to me their are two portage paths to get there. One is high and dry the other is, umm, low and full of juice. I took the canoe first trip on the low road. Half way through I came to a rather large muddy section with no footprints. Fine. It's getting deeper as I go and by the fourth step I'm in past my knees and basically stuck.


Mad_Mat wrote on Nov 12th, 2012 at 3:03pm:
at the landing at Unnamed to Baird, there are two trails - low route goes thru alder swamp to a bit of landing - the high route is a much better trail, but drops very steep to a next to nothing landing on Baird. 


HoHo wrote on Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:19pm:
We were forewarned about the portage from Unnamed to Baird.  There is an obvious path that goes straight ahead, but reportedly takes you through a boggy mire.  There is also a less obvious path that heads off to the left, taking you up above the bog.  So you have a choice of low wetland or hilly dryland.  Although the bogs had not been bad so far, we opted for the bogless up-and-over route, which drops down very steeply at the Baird Lake end.  This picture looks down at the canoe at the Baird landing after our first trip across
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Snow_Dog wrote on Jul 24th, 2008 at 12:08am:
The (Baird to Unnamed) portage starts innocently enough but quickly plunges into a bog.  I start across and a couple of missteps warn me that I need to make sure I hit corduroy with my feet on every step.  A couple of rods later, the bog deepens and standing water is covering the corduroy.  Frogs are simply everywhere in this bog-hundreds of them scooting out of my way as I slosh through.  However, the water over the corduroy means I can’t see where to put my feet so very soon I find myself sunk to mid-thigh and unable to move.  I roll the canoe off my shoulders and begin trying to extract my legs without losing my boots in the process. 


Jimbo and Northwoods have also posted info on the high route.

Lesson #6: Use QJ's search function when route planning to ensure portages are no more difficult than they need to be.  Smiley
  
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Re: Lesson #5 portaging
Reply #19 - Oct 1st, 2013 at 12:12am
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db wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 6:45am:
but I want to hear more about the bow paddler putting on a pack in the canoe. I'd be dead set against that w/o seeing it in action first.

the whole series of events i described begins about 100 yards from shore for the bow paddler. securing his paddle, putting away his fishing rod/tackle, getting the packs unlashed. by the time he is ready to put his pack on, we are nearly to shore and the pack goes on just before stepping out into the water.

if we are both trolling a particular stretch of water, the rear guy hands his rod off to the front guy to reel it in so the canoe doesnt lose course or speed.
  
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