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Re: Never again!
Reply #10 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 1:21pm
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TomT wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 10:58pm:
The last 2 I've calmed down and know what to expect. I'm looking to start doing group trips again but I know I will always go solo if I have to.


When soloing, I think the trick for me was learning to ease  the pace enough that I could keep exploring every day, and not have to spend a day sitting in camp cause I needed to recover after a hard day.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 2:28pm
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My "never again" has to do with fall trips. They can be fantastic but easily turn the other way. We had two hours of sun mid-week but otherwise rain and temps dropping from the low 40'sF to near freezing with constant wind. Our last night we were setting up camp and I realized that we were all suffering from hypothermia. We fashioned a wall tent from the tarps and used the lantern and stoves to revive ourselves. If the vehicle had been closer even I would have opted to go out early. I decided then that the MN cabin with a roof and wood stove is where I would spend my fall seasons.
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 6:36pm
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Spartan2 wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 12:38pm:
The only fond memory of that trip is that we stopped at the Isle of Pines and had a root beer with Dorothy Molter. 
sorry about the rest of the trip (paddling with a neck spasm. ouch!) but that photo really is special  Thumbs Upup
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 1st, 2013 at 11:25pm
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Marten, I'm with you on the fall trips, which is half of one 'never again' - too much cold and rain....the other being the US side.  Even in September, we ran into way more people than I usually do in peak season on most Q trips.  Not quite enough wilderness for my taste. 'Course there's never anything certain about weather.  It was 47 degress in Ely on July 27th in the afternoon when I got there this year.

Another is certain tripping companions....I'm sure we've all had someone that won't get an invite back.  One guy wouldn't shut up...took him three days to run outta stuff to say...then he went into loop mode and we kept hearing the same stuff over and over.  I think there was another thread earlier in the year about that topic. 

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Reply #14 - Nov 2nd, 2013 at 2:50am
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I still love October trips, despite having been hit with some wet and cold weeks. The silence and the solitude are simply beyond compare. It is like an "Last human in the world" experience, the trails and campsites are there, but there is not a footprint to be found.

My "never again" moment was on my trip in April of 2012, when I woke to 18" of snow and a viscous wind out of the north. Nearly flipped on Argo in the waves, the portage to Crooked took close to three hours. Standing in the snow on the north shore of crooked, the wind in the trees, waves in the bay, something brushed my cheek and I swatted it away- it was a little junco, it came back, landed on my arm and hopped across my shoulders and huddled for a minute or two against my neck before fluttering off in the wind.

Never above freezing that whole day, 10 degrees that night on Wagosh (a night I had planned on being home).

My tent in the morning.
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 2nd, 2013 at 4:25am
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WOW! - that's what I'm saying- my suffering doesn't compare
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 2:16am
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We always take late fall, October trips.  Two years ago we went out Knife, thru Ottertrack and back thru Hanson to the South Arm and out thru Birch.  We had a sunny evening and then cold and a couple of inches of snow.  We were heading out for our last canoe day back and crossed the short portage to Sucker where we were greeting with three foot waves and gale force winds.  We decided to head around to Prairie Portage and try to follow the protected shoreline the route back.  It took twice our normal time and I broke a paddle fighting the wind and waves.  I thought never again, but enclosed is a picture from this years trip.  Always enjoy the solitude and serenity of being the last ones in and out of canoe country.
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:26am
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Joe_Schmeaux wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 4:22pm:
db wrote on Oct 24th, 2013 at 10:21pm:
... About 30 years ago, as I paddled out at the end of a particularly challenging trip for me (at the time) using "never again, never again, never again" as cadence for every stroke of the paddle for miles 'n miles before the take-out....... I haven't missed a year since but for those few hours, you couldn't have paid me enough to do the same thing again.

LOL!


My never again cadence was mostly due to weather and lack of preparedness. I now take warmer clothes and better food in August then we did that May.

My never again(s) were serious "I'm never doing a trip HERE again" type thoughts. I understood how sorely out of my eliminate and unprepared I was. My toes were numb for a solid week of that trip. The food sucked, jeans sucked.... Our reaction, hunkering down, was a mistake I can see more clearly with history.

Only wussies bring stoves and knit hats!
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Reply #18 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 2:01pm
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I had made the vow of no more fall trips but a few years later schedules were such that we set up another fall trip in WCPP. It would be a week long base camp on Irvine Lake before the portages had been cut by the park. Five paddlers, two canoes, a small kayak and ample gear to stay warm and dry were flown in with an Otter floatplane. We settled into a site I had prepared a few months earlier. It was sheltered on all sides except a nice southern exposure. Instead of the expected warming rays of the sun all that came in was a cold wind all week long with each day getting darker and colder until we were again experiencing temps just above the freezing point. We had come prepared though and kept adding tarps to our system. When the last wall was added mid-week and we had our improvised wall tent built we had no view but could stay comfortable. One partner commented that he now knew why I was so explicit on what tarps each person should bring. We have not given in again but the lure of the fall woods will surely entice us again sometime.
  
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Re: Never again!
Reply #19 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 3:04pm
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I mentioned earlier that I thought a litter adversity made a trip special.
I don't disagree with people that say they don't actively seek "hard times" that eventually they'll find you but I still think that on some primitive subconscious level seasoned paddlers "enjoy" a little hardship now and then. Wink

Maybe I'm reading between the lines and projecting my inner McGyver, but everybody is still planning to trip again and having learned from the past will see what a "newbie" sees as a disaster, just another reason you brought the gear you did. Grin
  
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