The slightly larger blades and bigger gap brings new possibilities and expands the potential usage for these lures. As in fishing bigger and heavier jig heads and fishing deeper water than these rigs usually plumb.

I can see dropping these down to 20 ft quite efficiently with no problem given the right weight jig head. I am sort of excited to fish these rigs, more so than in the past. 

Notice I put the word efficient with my analysis. Efficiency in fishing is crucial to success. I have a freind who can make Bass eat when no one else can. But to fish off his boat when he is in charge is quite frustrating. He is very inefficient, never takes advantage of conditions such as wind and we catch absolutely zip. I have to brusquely take control of his craft ("Gimme that" as I yank the Captain hat off his scruffy head ) and go about the task of putting us on some fish. He usually curls up in the bow for a wee nap until he hears my infamous blurting of "oh, theres a bite........ but I missed".........Then he yawns, stretches and catches the fish I just missed. Happens every time almost like clockwork. It is such an inside joke he puts special emphasis now on the stretches and yawns and we burst out laughing because we both know what is about to happen.............. (like the 2 hunting dogs "Findem" and "Catchem")

What I had pictured was drifting a shoreline, using the wind to an advantage, and casting and retrieving. Much deeper than 20 ft and I'm likely using other presentations which spend the majority of the time in the strike zone.......efficient. While I'm drifting along I am working the spin jig down the break from say 5ft down to 20 or maybe even 25 if my outfit will relay info with a high degree of confidence (will I feel a bite in water deeper than 25 given my drift rate, line diameter etc. etc.).

Of course If you are confident the fish are at the bottom of the incline and resting at the base of the break you could drift along with your lure established in water considerably deeper than 20 ft all while being very "efficient" since no retrieve would be employed.

So it is a perceptive question Kerry. Yes you can fish such a lure deeper than 20, much deeper, but much depends on conditions and your set-up. I probably would not fish the lure much beyond 25 (and traditionally it actually excels in water much shallow than that). Fishing it down to 20/25 like I had envisioned is almost rather novel for this bait IMO. But given the larger blades and wider gap enables a fellow to fish a little bigger jig head. If your aim is to fish shallow with light jigs then get the "junior" model. I picked up one pac of each size for evaluation. I would probably never consider using anything else after having checked these out. Simply put they are primo.

Pause and think before replacing the blade size Kerry. I rather like the little bigger blade. Each blade type offers its own advantage/disadvantage. I like the hybrid between the colorado and the willow but I think they would all work.

I can't wait to fish. I feel like the guy on the chain in Mad Max. Daggone fish better watch out when I get cut loose   

I have been messin around with various jig heads with the jig spinners and the shape I like best is the banana style. Goes through the water nicely but with a side to side rolling action especially if coupled with a swim bait with a paddle type tail.

I have a rather large rig that most folk would liken to a northern lure but I intend to use it to target walleyes. What I liked about the rig is how the hollow type swim bait tended to "fold" up in the middle on the drop. The action was similar to using a trick worm for largemouths where the hook is in the middle of the bait.

Very cool set up and quite versatile being able to jig it on the drop or straight retrieve with a side to side rolling action with the attention getting attraction of a spinner. I will be giving this set up a really hard test as it will be one of my only walleye casting baits.

MT, I missed your post on the Su-spins.  You've mentioned them before and I'm starting to understand how they might be more effective for trolling or casting deep.  I plan to pick up a few just to give them a try.  So far all the possibilities for jigging are largely theoretical but after this season I should have the opportunity to give a bunch of different techniques and configurations a try.  Hopefully I'll be reporting back with pix of some mighty fish.

Kerry wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 4:58pm:


Well, I would gear the tail to time of year. Twister grubs are more subtle and match the type of movement one might find in critters during cooler water. It is important to match cooler water activity levels. Smaller baits, more subtle is key with cooler water.......having said that grub style baits will catch fish year around.

On the other side of the coin later in the year I like bigger baits with more movement and paddle style baits seem to provoke bigger fish.

Sometimes fish aren't in the mood to hunt something down and have to kill it before eating it and the paddle tails will fail. Then a fluke with its wounded action works well. So I guess the key is to have a variety and see what produces best.