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Reply #30 - Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:24pm
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I used to carry a glove, something like one of these E.T. Unhooking gloves (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) but after one lengthy trip to Quetico I just found it too big a pain in the butt and stopped using it.  First, they're hot to wear on summer's day, so I found myself putting it on and taking it off.  The last thing I want to be thinking about when I've hooked a trophy fish is finding my glove and getting it on.  Second, they reduce my sensitivity and manual dexterity so I've resigned my unhooking glove to the bin of unused tripping gear.

I do, however, use a lipping tool.  The one I have is an exceptional piece of equipment called The Lipper.  They're not being manufactured anymore, some kind of patent dispute, but it is the same quality as the Boga but a much better design in my opinion.  The Lipper has a locking mechanism, which allows the lipping head to swivel freely when unlocked.  So when I catch a pike the first thing I do is lip it in the water with the lipping head locked.  I remove the treble with the fish in the water (after I've given it some time to settle.)  The only time I  bring it out of the water is if I plan to eat it, which means it would be under 6 or 7 pounds or if it is a trophy size and I want to measure and weigh it.  Then I will unlock the swivel mechanism so that if the fish should surprise me with a final thrash, it won't dislocate my shoulder or break its jaw.  It's too bad The Lipper tool isn't available anymore.  It has been a god send for dealing with Pike and walleye.  If you ever run across one grab it - (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
As with most tools, quality tells.  Cheap lipping tools are, in my opinion, worse than useless.
  
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Reply #31 - Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:53pm
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I'm no physics guru but it would seem that the gripper would add an extra pivot point/moment arm and more torque on your arm, making it more difficult to control a thrashing fish.

This video was taken last year in Q. My son landing his personal best NP. I measured 46". This fish acted very peculiar. Instead of floating next to the canoe when it tired, it seemed to be saving it's energy by bobbing almost vertically next to the canoe. It seemed to almost be standing on it's tail on the bottom of the shallow bay we were fishing. He finally became impatient of the pikes Gracie like tactics and grabbed for it.

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Reply #32 - Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:12pm
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I'm no physics guru but it would seem that the gripper would add an extra pivot point/moment arm and more torque on your arm, making it more difficult to control a thrashing fish.


The few times I've used it on a NP, I was acutley aware of that possibility. The orange gripper has a coiled wrist loop. I had in on, figuring if the fish started thrashing, I would release  my grip and let the coiled loop do it's job.
Of course a 30"+ NP isn't the same as a trophy sized 46" one. Shocked
Bottom line for me in this discussion is patience is key and IF it's not ready, your risking damaging it/yourself.
Another thing is when your solo depending on conditions, the wind/chop can make you more likely to rush because your worried about dumping as well.
  
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Reply #33 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 12:11am
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Kerry, that Lipper you have looks really great.  I searched on ebay with no luck.  It's too bad.
  
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Reply #34 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 1:56am
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Yeah, Tom, it's a shame.  It was developed by a Paraguayan conservationist and fisherman named Jose Xifra.  Apparently there was some kind of financial conflict with the American distributor and production got shut down.  I bought one just before that and a friend(?) of mine dropped it into the lake.  When I went to replace it I found the company had gone out of business.  I finally tracked a pair of them down that some fishing store in Florida had squirrelled away in old stock and bought them both.  Realizing I can't afford to lose another one, I now have a bungee style lanyard, about 4 foot long, which I secure to a thwart.  If I lose my grip or a fish thrashes too much I don't have to worry about losing it to Davy Jones again.
  
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Reply #35 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 6:05am
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Westwood wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 3:00pm:
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Because you are boating a 40 inch plus northern every trip, you should be giving us tips on how to catch the big ones.


I guess the best advice I could give then is to fish for walleyes. If you can find numbers of walleyes the pike will be there.

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Reply #36 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 11:11am
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most of my biggest pike come while jigging for walleyes also, but thats probably because i spend the most time doing just that. being that its on a jig rod with light line and a small hook, you have to play the fish out to even get it close to the canoe. i guess im blessed with large meat hook hands and have never met a fish i couldnt grab behind the gill plates. i landed at 45 inch muskie from a pile of rocks in a river by just grabbing it after a 45 minute fight. all the guys in my group do it with the behind the gill grab, i dont know if we are all just crazy or lucky or what, but we dont lose many, if any, fish boatside
  
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Reply #37 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 3:12am
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Guys, if you can swing it there is no fish handling tool that compares with a boga grip, period. That said the big girls need to be handled under the gills ( But anything under 40 gets the boga). I honestly don't like messin with fish without one. It is hard for me to understand how folk can comment on bogas having never used one.

I fished with an interesting fellow this past summer who used tieable leader material. It was very thin, nice presentation. I am a fan of single strand wire but dislike having to rig a new leader when the single strand gets bent. The tieable looks good.

This fellow mentioned sending me a few rigs but every afternoon I eagerly check the mailbox but remain disappointed and am becoming despondent. Perhaps this spring the errant leaders will magically appear Wink
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:30am
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mastertangler wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 3:12am:
This fellow mentioned sending me a few rigs but every afternoon I eagerly check the mailbox but remain disappointed and am becoming despondent. Perhaps this spring the errant leaders will magically appear Wink


You are right to call me on this MT. What length do you prefer?

Its called tie-able titanium and available at Bass Pro and from a company called KNOT2KINKY.
Leaders made from this stuff are ultra fine (I use 25lb test) and last until the snaps or swivels wear out. They do not kink even after dozens of thrashing pike or trout. I am still amazed at how good this stuff is.
  
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Reply #39 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:33am
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Grabbing a fish behind the gills requires commitment.  If you are tentative and don't get a good grip and a firm grip, the fish can easily flop out of your hand.  In the end, it is like any other skill you have learned, it just takes practice.  I still bring a net because if you are fishing for dinner, a net will allow getting dinner into the canoe sooner.
  
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