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Re: Bear rope & pack hanging breakthrough
Reply #10 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 2:36pm
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Solus wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
I love the strong nearly non-stretching cord that ST recommends (and use it as the rope my pulley hangs from). However, when new and clean it is perhaps the most tangle prone cord invented by man short of monofilament. when the cord is new and the bugs are out......


  Grin Grin Grin I found that out on my spring trip. The more I used it, the better "hand" it developed though, so it's still great stuff.
I found that wrapping it around something ( 1/2" pvc pipe etc) then walking it out full length and rewind a few times seemed to make it less tangle prone.

I bought some of the reflective cord for use on my Dry-Fly. All in all a good item. Thumbs Upup

MP, is right. Either use something to wrap it around or wear a pair of leather gloves. That thin cord will hurt you IF you let it. Cry
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 8:55pm
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4 years ago we had a similar foodpack hanging episode....

the foodpack discussion here helped a lot:
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db was good enough to post a couple videos on this:
Sending the pack up:
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Then, letting it down again:
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Reply #12 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 12:03am
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zski, thanks for the links to previous thread. Question for you and anyone really: what is recommend or used for a "small self-lubricating sailing pulleys " that is inexpensive. Ronsons as MP uses look like the cadillacs to use but they can be a bit pricey (for me only Smiley. What other brands are worth it (will hold up)?
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:49pm
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Nanda, I ended up getting 3 of these
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)  (pretty sure that's the one) was watching and they went on sale   tried to post a picture but couldn't get past a "too large" error. The blocks MP uses do look real nice though.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:27pm
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zski,

Thanks. I clicked the link but the Defender website couldn't locate the page. I went to (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) to look at the allen and lewmar brand blocks. Is that what you were looking at too?
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 4:43pm
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Go to the web site in Nanda’s post and in the upper right corner of the page use the search to search for
20 mm block
And you will get several suitable blocks.
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 5:51pm
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I bought mine at a sailing shop too.
About $15 a piece except for the 3rd one which has a Becket which allows you to attach a Caribiner to clip pack hauling loop too.

Having a bearing of some type makes all the difference as well. Some cheap ''clothes line pulleys'' are just metal wheels on a metal shaft.
Under a heavy food pack load the friction is noticable.
With a good pulley system you don't need to "haul' your pack up hand over hand, you just walk the line out and it's effortless, even a little kid could do it. Wink
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 6:56pm
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Sorry the link in my last post didn't work. i ended up with 3 of these: [Ronstan 20 mm Series 20 Ball Bearing Block, Item #615283] they were on sale at the time for around $10. definitely better to have the bottom one with a becket (maybe something like Item #614281)
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:18pm
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Now what are you going to use for line.  The line that goes between trees needs to be stronger than the line that runs over the pullies.  I have never been concerned with stretch in a hanging kit because the tree limbs will bend under the weight making the line stretch negligible.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 11:00pm
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The line that goes between trees needs to be stronger than the line that runs over the pullies.


MP,
I'm not sure I understand why that needs to be?
IF all lines will hold more than your lifting I can't see a problem unless your putting far more load on the system than you need to lift the pack.
Those Cooke Custom lines are rated 450# and I retrofitted my rig to use them everywhere.

Am I asking for trouble?
  
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