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 10 Bigger Family Canoe Advice (Read 8055 times)
Mad_Mat
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Re: Bigger Family Canoe Advice
Reply #10 - Jan 3rd, 2015 at 7:15pm
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"thoughts on a lightweight 17' tandem that can be used for a solos/tandem trips?"

guessing at your intended use, to be mostly a smaller tandem for your kids as they transition and  for solo ?

only two boats I can think of that would work for that

Bell's Northstar Canoe - Northwind 16 - 16'6"  it is likely identical to the old Bell Canoe Works Northstar model at 16'6 which I have in Kevlar Ultralight.  recommended for smaller paddlers and light loads, BUT It is the boat I use for trips with my brother for 2 weeks or so - it is quick, as it is narrower than most 17 footers.  It can be bought with optional center seat or kneeling thwart.  I don't have either, but have soloed it a couple of times (only day use) from the thwart that would be the kneeling thwart if i had one - yeah, you can solo it, but any solo canoe would do better.  works best as a tandem.

about the same can be said for Wenonahs Solo Plus, though I have never paddled one. 

Souris River Q 16 comes in both a tandem and solo version - I'd guess that might be a contender as well if you set it up for both tandem and solo.

problem with three seats in a boat is it takes away storage space, and probably makes for more difficult portaging.  If I were to have a boat like that, I'd probably rig a backpack frame carrier that hooked to the center seat for portaging.

"Center" seat, should more likely be behind center a bit, not right at center for soloing.
  
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Re: Bigger Family Canoe Advice
Reply #11 - Jan 4th, 2015 at 3:54am
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Mad_Mat, Good thoughts. Thanks. Never considered the wilderness or a 16' boat. We're really thinking though that the 17' would be our tandem. We'll probably sell the Champlain once the family transitions out of our 'group trips'.

I guess I'm considering these canoes:

18ft-ers or so
1. seneca
2. SR18.5
3. old Boundary Waters II
4. Bell Northwind 18'9"
OR
the smaller tandems
1. SRQ17
2. Wenonah Prism or Wilderness?

It's a long list. I'll have to cut it down!
  
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Re: Bigger Family Canoe Advice
Reply #12 - Jan 5th, 2015 at 4:39pm
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Nanda - you Really Really don't want to solo an 18 footer or even 17 footer tandem - maybe if you are just going out to a farm pond, but otherwise not - way too much surface area for the wind to blow you around - it also takes more horsepower to get the bigger boats up to cruising speed

the Wenona Prism and Wilderness are both solo canoes - can't be used for tandem for any practical purposes

I've once used a solo boat for tandem on a local lake - you have to sit on the floor and it is harder to paddle that way - also decreases stability
  
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