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Reply #10 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 9:33pm
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PhantomJug wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 9:15pm:
All sarcasm aside, if


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Reply #11 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 10:02pm
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Just a thought, but Q-Dave keeps the road to Lac La Croix village open all year long. Why couldn't you park your vehicle at start of road into Beaverhouse and IF you had a snowmobile/sled, you could go into Beaverhouse, and walk into lake or walk/ski down into Quetico? Or jump into Cirrus.
IF you had a good 4x4 and parked close to gravel plowed road, you should be okay I would think? I don't think it's agaisnt the law to drive a snowmobile into the parks borders and stop, or is it?
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:24am
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Ah, solo.  It sounds so easy doesn't it?  Or have you forgotten how long the road down to BH actually is.  Leaving your rig on Flanders rd?  Navigating BH with all that current running underneath?  C'mon man.
  
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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:29pm
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PhantomJug wrote on Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:24am:
Ah, solo.  It sounds so easy doesn't it?  Or have you forgotten how long the road down to BH actually is.  Leaving your rig on Flanders rd?  Navigating BH with all that current running underneath?  C'mon man.


Wolves? Bears? Nah........Solo? Sure why not. My biggest concern in winter snowshoe travel has always been inadvertently crossing creeks or smallish rivers which have been snowed over. Cross where there is a good drop underneath and you can get busted up.......fall while solo and you can get dead.

Current under ice is my second greatest concern.

I have read of the first scenario having happened to folk, especially out west. And I became potentially entangled in the situation and it is rather unnerving.

The Paradise River flows from Paradise Washington to Longmire (and beyond). The total distance by trail is only some 6 miles (13 by road) but the elevation change is dramatic. The trail follows the river and is a rather pleasant hike. During the winter months I was the night watchman of the Longmire National Park service compound so the midwinter days were often spent solo on a pair of snowshoes or occasionally on skis.

Clever lad that I am I got the genius idea of snowshoeing from the Longmire compound up to Paradise Inn and then the following day continuing on to Camp Muir which is base camp for a summit bid at Mt Rainier (only 3 hours from the top). I got an early start and figured I would destroy the trail to Paradise in 1/2 day easily.......after all I had hiked it numerous times in the summer. Mt Rainier achieved the worlds record in snowfall (1975 I believe) and while not a record year the snow was probably some 8ft deep near Paradise. Several hours into my venture the trail vanished and the Paradise River was no longer discernible having been covered over. Lots of 20ft drops along the river.......I was sweating bullets, loathe to leave the little valley where the river was lest I get lost but knowing I could take the big plunge at any moment.

I ended up losing the trail and the river and popped out behind and below Paradise Inn. I arrived just in time to get a bite to eat (Paradise was open on the weekends throughout the winter). It had taken some 10 hours to travel the six miles.

I did continue on to Camp Muir the next day but that was a piece of cake compared with the upper flanks of where I had been the day before. The jaunt did create a bit of a buzz amongst the Park Rangers and my co-workers. Not sure if the looks I got were grudging respect or "what an idiot" type glances.  Be careful what you decide to bite off.

PJ is right......why the Quetico? BW seems the way to go. Would you know any difference in the middle of winter if I dropped you on a lake in the Q or a lake in the BW? Nay way. I readily admit to being jealous, I would love to do such a trip, sounds great!

 
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 3:19pm
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PhantomJug wrote on Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:24am:
Ah, solo.  It sounds so easy doesn't it?  Or have you forgotten how long the road down to BH actually is.  Leaving your rig on Flanders rd?  Navigating BH with all that current running underneath?  C'mon man.


  Why so negative PJ? IF we all didn't challenge the "sounds so easy" mentality, none of us would be trippers at all.

I mentioned you could SNOWMOBILE down from Flanders Road to BH. People leave their "rigs" all the time at put-in's in warm weather where you have a greater chance of someone messing with them.
Even if you ride in on a dogsled, they have to take in ice conditions/current running under the ice. People
ski/walk/snowshoe into and across the BWCA/Q all the time

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You mean to tell me that Jaximus a young strong( I'm assuming he is) 26 year old man and his brother wouldn't be up to the riggers of going into BH/Cirrus in the winter IF their properly equipped and motivated?
You could easily run the shoreline to Cirrus portage, jump across and find a nice base camp.
I don't know I could do many miles at my age (66), pulling a loaded sled walking/skiing/snowshoeing, but I damn sure could of done it when I was 26. I cross-country skied 10-15 + miles easily up into my late 40's.
Where's your sense of adventure? I bet for a few bucks Jax could get one of the outfitters in town to drop them off and pick them up at Flanders/BH?

Its about 12 km from Flanders to BH. That's 7.5 mi. Your telling me 2 young strong guys with an early start couldn't ski/walk into BH in one day, camp first night near put-in and go from there to Cirrus or Quetico lk?
Even if they came up short, they have all their gear, you just set-up out of the wind and close to fallen timber for stove wood.
Remember, it's winter, no vegetation, they could easily avoid the current on Q-River and go cross country from BH to Quetico.
I shouldn't speak for Jaximus, I have NO idea if he and his brother are up for that type of challenge, but it's certainly do-able if they are.

Dawson Trail campground is open for Winter activities, you could probably work something out with them and go inland from French Lake if so inclined/
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 7:04pm
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What I'm telling you is that if you left your rig on Flanders Rd., it would be on cinder blocks when you returned or not there at all.  And, I'm not negative.  I'm a critical realist.
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 8:05pm
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Well if your being a "critical realist", then you must have a valid reason you say this?
First hand experience/anecdotal?
You could pull in far enough with a 4 x 4 on BH road that it wouldn't be visible directly from the road, unless the snowfall was too much.

Q-Dave leaves his CAT road grader parked on different KM markers turn-offs and has NEVER had anyone vandalize it. He'll hitch a ride back to his truck which he leaves the same way and no-body's bothered it?

I'd worry less about a vehicle being stolen/vandalized up there than I would anywhere a 50 mile radius of Detroit.

Dawson Campground is open all winter, so IF Jaximus was concerned about leaving rig, he could go that route.
As far as I know the vehicles parked at BH is paddling season have been safe. That road is good enough IF someone wanted to come in and clean them out they could easily.

Anyway I was just giving Jaximus some ideas since he said he wanted to go to Q.

Your critical realist opinion is just as valid as my more optimistic one so it's all good.
  
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Reply #17 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 8:26pm
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First hand.  I've also trekked across Nym to get into Batch which ended up being a long walk with no fishing.  If there was no snow, the BH road might be doable - up to that 2' diameter white pine that is lying across the road - but someone as prepared as you would probably have thought of that and brought a chainsaw.  But by the time you get the log moved, the sun has set and you're sleeping in you car wondering why the hell did I do this.  Dang, PJ was right.

Q-Dave has Ontario plates and is a local.  People know him and if it is indeed him who keeps the 1st Nation folks connected to Hwy 11, well, I would leave his rig alone too.  Unfortunately, I do not have his clout or esteem.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 8:58pm
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So your saying they would strip you car IF they had the chance? I guess some of them would, but the Rangers in park and at BH are 1st Nations people and their Native friends come and go in there all the time, as far as I know no-body has had their vehicle stripped in BH parking lot.

Not everyone knows Q-Dave by sight in the Lac La Croix village. He plows just to the outskirts of village (Crown Land) and the Tribe plows in village. So too any potential miscreants, Dave's truck, local plates or not is just another 'pale face" to many of the locals.

I wouldn't drive a vehicle all the way into BH parking lot, chances of getting snowed in to great. I don't carry a chainsaw everywhere I go, but I have a good double bit axe and a snatch strap, I have pulled trees out of two tracks many times while 2-tracking in MI for trout spots.

I don't see a lot of people pulling pulks/tobbagons if there's any snow cover walking unless it's short distances, most are using skis.

Anyway it's something to think about one way or the other.
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 2nd, 2015 at 12:28am
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we would want to go where we do in summer, as we have a much better understanding of where the fish "SHOULD" be hanging out. we enter through nym and into batch.

I am not sure that the public landing at nym would be plowed, but i have a hunch that it may be. the cabins out on that lake may just lend itself to having snowmobiles and such accessing the lake from the landing.

otherwise we would attempt to stay the night before we embark on our trip at a local motel, in hopes of leaving our vehicle there and getting a ride with a worker.

gander mountain has a nice 9x9 insulated pop up hub shack with a regular price of $299. hoping that at the end of the season, it gets cut down a ways and that may become the focal point for our winter tripping endeavor.
  
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