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Reply #30 - Jan 4th, 2015 at 4:47pm
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get outside and cold camp!


IMHO the idea of "cold camping" for extended periods is a "white mans idea of roughing it". Wink

Do a little research and you'll see that ALL the indigenous people that lived OFF the land in frigid climates made shelters that allowed them to stay warm and comfortable.

From tents made of skins/ Tipi's/ Yurts/ Igloo's, they ALL provide a place out of the wind/cold and they were ALL heated by whatever fuel source the had on hand. Sure people still cold camp on trips, but I think that's as much about proving to themselves they CAN do it, as actually be as warm and comfortable as well.

Old Mountain men slept under tarps and Buffalo Robes. They'd heat rocks in a fire, put in hole under sleeping spot. cover with soil and stay toasty warm all night.

I have a outdoor skills book that shows how to make a "self feeding" fire set-up that used with a open style dry/fly set-up would keep you warm on the coldest nights. Couple ALL those "lost" skills with modern materials ( not in all cases), and IF you have the will/ DESIRE, there is NO reason you can't be warm and comfortable AND be in a cold, seemingly inhospitable place as viewed by a casual observer.

I have friends that live up North ( lower MI) and "brag" to all about their ice fishing in brutal conditions. Shocked Roll Eyes Grin

What they fail to mention is that the only elements they "brave" is the ride out/in on their snowmobiles with heated hand controls or ATV's with cabins, and then their in "ice shanty's" that look like mini-condo's on the ice. Wood stoves/ cook stoves/ LP lights and TV's. Here them tell it their "Jeremiah Johnsons". Huh Roll Eyes Grin Grin
  
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Reply #31 - Jan 4th, 2015 at 6:55pm
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Seems like an overreaction to some good-natured teasing. Cool
  
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Reply #32 - Jan 4th, 2015 at 10:32pm
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It's so easy to be tough in our own mind.  We have the luxury of concocting any scenario, history, fact or fiction that you so desire as long as it fits your narrative and we can come up with a means to justify it. 

Bottom line is, it's -43 on my deck thermometer.  You guys can take your egos and shove them down your buffalo hide skivvies.  I'm staying inside.
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 5th, 2015 at 12:25am
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Floridians are evidently a Little too  thin skinned for cold camping anyway. It has been below  zero here all day with a stiff wind. I have been out skiing twice and am going to go one more time when the  full moon gets a little higher but it sure is nice to come and sit in my lazy boy by the fire in between.
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Reply #34 - Jan 5th, 2015 at 1:52pm
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Jon gets a Gold Star on His MAN CARD Wink Cool Grin Grin
  
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Reply #35 - Jan 5th, 2015 at 9:34pm
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Thin skinned? Perhaps.......Concoctions? Nope, not even a little. I did run a trapline for quite a few years in Washington, the U.P. of Michigan and downstate. I sold fur which I put up on the Seattle fur exchange as well as local dealers in Michigan. About the only thing I haven't caught has been wolves (which I didn't try for) and I failed at Marten trapping despite giving it a good go. Tough? Sure, you have to be to run a line. The one thing you have to have as a trapper is what I call grit. The ability to wade through the mess and keep on going day after day month after month. I have lots of good stories but if I share them it just provides fodder for the MT haters.

I felt compelled to reveal a little history lest I be a Florida guy telling folk to not let others discourage them from getting out. Oh well.........For me its not so much being uncomfortable in tent (by all means have a excellent down bag and piles of thermal gear) but its the amount of time spent in the tent I would find discouraging. 12 or 13 hours in a nylon tent would be punishment itself regardless the temps.

As for me.......I would embrace the winter if I lived in the north. I would ski, snowshoe, snowmobile, trap, hunt and fish like I have done my entire life before moving to Florida and cold would be a reality to overcome and wouldn't stop me from pursuing the things I like to do. Didn't stop me before wether it was predator calling at 2 in the morning on a zero degree night or huddled behind some one else's shanty while the wind was honkin 40 MPH and spindrift collecting in the hole every 10 minutes.
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 12:46am
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This thread reminded me of something Garrison Keillor, our resident Minnesota bard, once wrote.  His "essay" deals with winter cold, and well, other topics that have been very evident in this thread.

Garrison wrote:

I come from Minnesota, where it's considered shameful to be shameless, where modesty is always in fashion, where self-promotion is looked at askance. Give us a gold trophy and we will have it bronzed so you won't think that we think we're special. There are no Donald Trumps in Minnesota: We strangled them all in their cribs. A football player who likes to do his special dance after scoring a touchdown is something of a freak.

The basis of modesty is winter. When it's ten below zero and the wind is whipping across the tundra, there is no such thing as stylish and smart, and everybody's nose runs. And the irony is, if you're smart and stylish, nobody will tell you about your nose. You look in the rearview mirror and you see a gob of green snot hanging from your left nostril and you wonder, "How long have I been walking around like that? Is that why all those people were smiling at me?"

Yes, it is.

So we don't toot our own horns. We can be rather ostentatious in our modesty and can deprecate faster than you can compliment us. We are averse to flattery. We just try to focus on keeping our noses clean.


I hope some of you can see the humor and relevancy of his words.

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Reply #37 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 1:01am
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my thread was mostly for ideas on how plausible it would be to achieve. it wouldnt be a dead of winter thing, maybe a november or march endeavor.

the idea was to use one of those insulated shacks, the pop up style ones. bring foam for a floor and fish and sleep in the same building.

being that i have a month only baby, its probably just a lot of talk at this point, but i thought it sounds fun.

i lived in northern wisconsin growing up and still live in central wisconsin. i icefish a lot, i hunt, i camp, i look for deer antler sheds, and shovel my neighbors driveways because i dont feel that should have to come out in the cold. im used to dealing with cold.
  
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Reply #38 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 1:22am
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Sure, tis not in fashion to toot your own horn but slander, smear and innuendo is fine and dandy correct?

Yes I foolishly had to reveal a bit of my history as a basis or a foundation to give an opinion that had any merit whatsoever especially considering where I currently reside. You have missed a rather unique opportunity to inquire about a lifestyle that not many in the outdoors have embraced.
  
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Reply #39 - Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:06am
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mastertangler wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 1:22am:
You have missed a rather unique opportunity to inquire about a lifestyle that not many in the outdoors have embraced.   


Yeah, well, most of us that live up here are well aware of that 'lifestyle'.  It is not uncommon - it's quite typical in fact.  So, it looks like your unique MT . . . . just like everybody else.  Obviously, Keillor was lost on you.
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