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Re: trolling with weights
Reply #20 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:53pm
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Jimbo,
You are correct 6 ounces is a lot of weight.  But if I am in 60 feet of water and I am not hitting bottom, I think I am probably placing my lure in the proper temperature zone.  Plus with a heavier weight, I can troll a little faster.
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 11:32pm
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Let me tell you, folks, when it comes to research I am the master of obsessive compulsivity (just ask my wife!)  So here's the bird's eye lowdown on Sutton spoons. 
They're made in a little shop in Naples New York where they gained a huge following in the Finger Lakes district - trout and Walleye.  The company is almost 100 years old but whoever's running it now doesn't seem to care much whether there is any stock or not. What distinguishes these lures is not only that they are paper thin (only around 1/16 oz.) but the superior quality of the silver plating and finish.  However,sometime over the last 10 years or so the company lost their plater and probably their interest in the business.  So finding Sutton flutter spoons is like finding hen's teeth.  I actually called the shop in Naples and they don't have a thing and probably won't until maybe the Fall (and even then, by the vagueness of their response to my questions, I'm guessing there won't be much.)
So then I went over to E-bay and there are some available for auction.  The prices can be reasonable or outrageous depending on God knows what.  But I managed to pick up a pretty good selection even though I paid used what they would cost new - if there were any.  I also picked up a few Miller spoons, which was a company out of Hamburg New York, whose spoons are of equal quality (that company is long gone.)
Plazma spoons are apparently garbage as are a number of other knock-offs.  The thing about Sutton and Miller spoons was the quality of the silver plate.  I'm told that nickel, which is what most of the knock offs are plated in, looks like a black blob at depth while the property of silver is such that it remains lively and attractive.  So they say.
There is one knock-off that is supposed to be decent - Mooselook Thinfish (the same company that makes Williams Wablers,) which uses precious metal plating, gold and silver.  Folks report that the finish isn't the same quality as the originals but still pretty good and pretty effective.
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So there you go, more than you ever wanted to know about Sutton spoons.
Obsessively yours,
Kerry
  
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Re: trolling with weights
Reply #22 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:08am
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Another surefire laker go to favorite to OCD over is the large Storm Lightnin' Shad. Available in many holographic finishes, Lakers will swim a mile to eat 'em.  Wink

But, they are not made anymore. Discontinued. Sad
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 2:12am
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Hey Kerry -- Nice job sleuthing out the Sutton story!  I hope your job involves research or analysis. 

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Reply #24 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:07pm
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Thanks for the in-depth research on the Sutton Kerry Thumbs Upup

That link I posted said something about the operation being basically a one man show and the guy doesn't want to sell the business even though he's at the age he can't keep up with demand?

It also mentioned that on E-BAY they were going for big money and it appeared too some people that the owner had figured out he could make more money for making less spoons going the E-Bay route?
Who knows if that’s true or not?

Glad you mentioned the plating issue and about the Plasma and Mooselock Thinfish differences. 

I used to have a few Sutton Spoons from when you could get them on Cabela’s. Must of lost them or gave them away. Who knew they would become so rare.
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm
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Just in case someone is interested in the Mooslook "Faux" Sutton spoon. Cabelas has them on sale.

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Reply #26 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:43pm
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solotripper wrote on Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Just in case someone is interested in the Mooslook "Faux" Sutton spoon. Cabelas has them on sale.

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Actually those aren't the Sutton look-a-likes.  However, the Mooselook Thinfish are on  sale over at Kittery Trading Post (17% off - get it? ... St. Paddy's Day!  Somebody in the sales department was really working overtime on that one.)  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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