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Re: Solo canoe portage yoke
Reply #10 - Mar 19th, 2015 at 2:16pm
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"MM, I assume you've got some gear in your frame pack as well, otherwise seems bulky for just a portage yoke IMO. And does your pack frame's top brackets nest into the gunnels?"

Jim,
in a solo boat, you have to deal with a removeable portage yoke, no matter what kind.  I don't find the packframe to be any problem - it goes back into the boat last, just laying flat atop a pack, and the yoke/hooks a the top fit under a thwart - I do always tie it with a short tether - not sure how long it would float if at all -I'd guess most wooden yokes would float, even with all the hardware - though that might be worth testing if you have one.

I don't keep a pack bag on the frame (though we used to years ago, but only carried very light stuff in it) - I have used the frame to carry my gear as well as the boat (seperate trips), but usually only for very long portages - I normally just put my one pack on, then "toss" my duffle atop that.  I added a "shelf" to the bottom of the frame - really just a cloth piece that wraps around the bottom of a pack to help support the weight and keep it from slipping down - the pack usually, I just loop the shoulder straps over the tops of the frame - a quick tie with an attached piece of cord and its ready to carry the gear in about a minute or two - for the times I carry gear.  I use the same method when backpack hunting with one of my freighter frame packs - just put a big dufle on the shelf, a quick tie, and off I go - quick and easy.

Oh, and no, the top brackets don't attach at the gunnels - the fromt cross piece of the seat sits in those brackets - never slips around - I have some shrink tubing on the bracket and around the seat frame at the two points the brackets go, I put a piece of pipe insulation, wrapped tight with electrical tape - so a customized fit.  The fram is not attached to the boat in any way, the boat just sits on the frame in the brackets -  the "hook" that I formed is 2" deep, which is plenty to hold the seat frame - other rigs I have for other boats are customized as well - for tandems, to fit the carry thwart for example.

I'd say at least on a dozen occasions over the years, passing people on trials, I've gotten comments about how easy I was making the portage look, how comfortable I looked carrying the canoe (even with the 70# Grumman).  A solo boat does balance well at that front seat frame, for 2 of my boats - that's a part of the problem with the seat mounted yoke on the Rendezvous - I moved the seat back about 8", which messes up the balance making the boat bow heavy - I should try carying the boat stern first, which might improve the balance.
  
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Re: Solo canoe portage yoke
Reply #11 - Mar 20th, 2015 at 3:24pm
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MM, I see now. As usual, well thought out.
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Reply #12 - Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:09am
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I've used several different kinds of solo portage yokes.  The one I like best is the one I made last year.

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If it interests you, note the position of the screws in the very last picture.  They bent from the torque applied to the pads.  When I put them into the other holes they were more secure because the force on them was vertical rather than angled.
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 22nd, 2015 at 1:17am
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Gavia, I have seen that style some place before. I always wondered about the amount of torque you would be putting on the seat mounts.   How long have you been using that type of yoke?
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 22nd, 2015 at 4:03pm
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I do very much prefer using my pack frame rig, like by a factor of 20 to one or more. 


I bought a "Knupac" many years ago.  The company is now out of business, but it was a frame and bag with u-shaped cradles at the top for portaging a canoe.  I loved the bag that it had, one big compartment that opens from the side so it is a big opening and which is waterproof. Great for transporting all those "soft" things you want to keep dry.

I never got comfortable managing a canoe on the system.  It certainly alleviated the pain of portage pads digging into my shoulders. But I find the canoe riding so high a bit awkward. If I had used it more, who knows.

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Reply #15 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:52pm
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Fallguy wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 1:17am:
Gavia, I have seen that style some place before. I always wondered about the amount of torque you would be putting on the seat mounts.   How long have you been using that type of yoke?


I adapted the design from someone else.  His yoke hooked onto the back seat rail, while mine locks onto it.  Its first trip was last spring.  The torque never occurred to me, but on my second trip last year - after repositioning the screws - it was just fine.
  
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