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Reply #30 - Aug 6th, 2015 at 3:40pm
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Perhaps Q doesn't feel a need to satisfy curiosity. The guy does have rights.
  
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Reply #31 - Aug 6th, 2015 at 6:08pm
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. It would seem to me that if the park thought the situation was serious enough at the time they needed to close down part of the park, and get the guy out of there, then at least issuing a brief statement isn’t going to violate they guy’s rights if worded properly. That’s why they use the word “allegedly” in reports

Curiosity went out the window when they closed the park and went in after him. Then it becomes the public's right to know
  
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Reply #32 - Aug 6th, 2015 at 7:10pm
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Reply #33 - Aug 6th, 2015 at 8:01pm
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solotripper wrote on Aug 6th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
. It would seem to me that if the park thought the situation was serious enough at the time they needed to close down part of the park, and get the guy out of there, then at least issuing a brief statement isn’t going to violate they guy’s rights if worded properly. That’s why they use the word “allegedly” in reports

Curiosity went out the window when they closed the park and went in after him. Then it becomes the public's right to know


Really?? Ontario, Canada owes no explanation to US citizens.
  
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Reply #34 - Aug 6th, 2015 at 10:17pm
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Old Salt wrote on Aug 6th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
solotripper wrote on Aug 6th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
. It would seem to me that if the park thought the situation was serious enough at the time they needed to close down part of the park, and get the guy out of there, then at least issuing a brief statement isn’t going to violate they guy’s rights if worded properly. That’s why they use the word “allegedly” in reports

Curiosity went out the window when they closed the park and went in after him. Then it becomes the public's right to know


Really?? Ontario, Canada owes no explanation to US citizens.


They do when the guy is an American, came in thru the BWCA and they shut down areas that American paddlers use, possibly disrupting people plans and maybe costing outfitters money. American paddlers and outfitters put a lot of money into the Ontario provincial park coffers. The OPP and Quetico park official might not have any legal responsibility to give a more detailed explanation, but you’d think they’d want to put people’s mind at ease about this incident.

On the BWCA site a guy posted that he and his son had ran into the guy and gave him some food and shoes. He had zero in gear with him and told them he had come in with a big bag of pot. So I think as paying visitor’s to the park paddlers have a right to know if this guy was just a pot head wanna-be “extreme survivalist”, or someone with legitimate mental issues that could make him a danger to others under the right circumstances.

IF he was just a stoner in over his head, he probably learned his lesson and that will be the end of this.

IF he has mental issues and doesn't get the proper care, he might try it again. With all the incidents involving people that everyone swore were harmless until they went off; I don’t think it’s too much to ask the authorities to tell the paddling public exactly what happened.
  
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Reply #35 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 5:49am
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Reply #36 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 5:09pm
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I hope that someone gives this guy a good mental health evaluation to see if he has issues other than pot related that would possibly make him a danger to himself or others?

I get testing your mettle in the wilderness, but begging food and supplies doesn't sound like the guy had a clue to what he would be facing.

You get to the point you have to rely on the kindness of strangers, it's time to pack it in and re-think your idea and the skill set's you need to do it.
  
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Reply #37 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 12:23am
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I just spoke with my brother about this.  He was troubled at the news (he was in ID fighting fires the past 3 weeks)  Aaron spent 4 nights in my brothers garage in mid July.  He is smart albeit, quirky.  He would work for food/weed/beer but really had no plans or directions.  He can read and speak intelligently.  He eats only uncooked, raw, natural food and knows his way around the woods.  He has no family or relatives (that would claim him anyway.)  He's been living out of a tent and panhandling all summer in Ely.  Yes, probably mental health issues (like all of us).  Needy guy who got a raw deal somewhere along the line.  I doubt he woke up one morning and said; "Hey, I think I'll be a homeless vagrant and wander the wilderness with no shoes for the rest of my life."  Then again, maybe he did . . .  .
  
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Reply #38 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:46am
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Aaron would also visit my mothers church and attend the service and then head to the basement afterwards for food and fellowship.  He's a decent guy just in need.  Anyone else want to crucify him???
  
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Reply #39 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 3:09pm
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Anyone else want to crucify him???

I don’t see anyone crucifying the guy? More trying to understand the why’s of what he did?

You know the guy personally and that gives you insight that someone that is a complete stranger wouldn't have. IF you didn't know him and he materialized out of the bush at your campsite when you had your KIDS with you, are you telling me you wouldn't have the least bit of concern about his possibly being a danger to your kids?

I don’t believe a good Father like you or anyone that has vulnerable people in their paddling group would be out of line viewing someone like that with a certain level of caution until you could determine otherwise.

He might be ALL the things you mentioned, but IF he really knows his way around the woods, then he wouldn't be bumming food or gear from paddlers, he would be living off the land and making his own fishhooks from materials at hand like the first people did.

I agree we ALL have mental issues, but when you’re existence/well-being becomes dependent on the kindness of strangers, you need help and I don’t mean a meal and a place to sleep.

The guy has obviously lost his way and maybe a good mental evaluation would determine IF he has some problems that require medication to fix? IF not, then maybe getting that helping hand from people and a little “guidance” would be enough to turn his life around?

I've known/know plenty of people like this from the hippy/druggy 60’s and most don’t get better on their own, without some sort of intervention, either medical/ social or spiritual, they get so far down they can’t get back up.

  
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