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Reply #20 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 2:23am
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MossBack wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 3:47am:
Mr Wally,  Would you mind posting some additional photos or how your solo canoe is trimmed out?  What bells and whistles you have added?  I am traveling solo this Fall in a Mad River Independence and I believe it need some creature comforts added.  ST had kindly posted some of what he had done with his tandem he paddles solo, along with some single traveler campsites amenities.  It all helps and I am not bashful about stealing ideas.

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MossBack


Ah, the wonderful Indy!  I took mine on a few BW trips and loved the way it handled the small water and rivers.  I had trouble with it in windy conditions, though.  Even with my 50# pack behind me, I couldn't stick the stern enough to compensate for an oblique tailwind.  So beware the effects of all that rocker and be sure you can put weight all the way into the ends.
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 2nd, 2016 at 2:29am
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I've done 7 or 8 solo BW trips.  I triple portaged on one of the first ones, when I was carrying 90+ lbs.  Since then I've trimmed the load to about 85 lbs, and that includes a chair.

Double portaging, on the first trip I carry the boat and the small pack, 20-25 lbs.  With a heavier boat, say, 55 lbs, I'd take the day pack instead.  With a lighter boat, say, 40 lbs, it's much easier.

On the second trip I carry one large pack of about 50 lbs and my 10-12 lb daypack.  The daypack goes in front where it helps counterbalance the weight behind.

The boat comes across first so that when I arrive on the second trip I can put the boat in the water and drop the pack in without having to pick it up a second time.  It saves wear and tear on this 66-year-old body.

More info and pictures of loaded and unloaded boats on my website, (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).
  
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Reply #22 - Aug 3rd, 2016 at 2:20am
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Gavia,  Besides plagiarizing ideas I am also happy to admit my ignorance and ask for help or clarification.   Make me understand your comments about the Indy related to "sticking the stern", is that to say you are trimming for an abnormally heavy stern to keep the wind from blowing it flat?    Why do  you suggest moving the weight to the far ends?  So it does not pivot so easily and tracks better?

I have always been puzzled by the information I have found on the Indy that seems to  contradict itself.  Factory specs list it in the Moving Water category, yet for tracking give it an 8 out of 10.  Other factory literature claims it as "Our performance solo touring canoe" and one more boasts "Our best flatwater solo boat"

My reality is I have little enough time in it to have good confidence in bigger water.  So I am planning a trip from Prairie to the end of the Man Chain and back.  I am taking a double ended paddle at ST suggestion, although have not yet tried it,  and some time ago purchased a set of  Cooke covers to minimize wind effect and keep some of the waves out.  My guess would be all of the gear purchases will not make up for lack of skill on my part.

Final note, your website is quite impressive and you have devoted much time to give details.  Thank You for the effort, and additional information on the Independence.

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Reply #23 - Aug 3rd, 2016 at 3:01am
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Wally,  Thanks for the photos of some of your solo gear, but I am afraid that prompted more questions.  I was glad to see your footbrace pics.  I had already bought a Wenonah brace and was wringing my hands about drilling rivet holes.  I ordered stainless perforated studs from Mcmaster-Carr and planned to use clear 100% silicone caulk.

Do you think the silicone will be strong enough?  I was also surprised to see the brace mounted so high?  I searched for a standard dimension off the floor but came up empty?

Can I assume the blue squares are just painters tape to limit the epoxy?

What is the purpose of the 2 short pieces of black pipe insulation?  Knee pads for Gunwales maybe?

Standard apologies for all the questions.

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Reply #24 - Aug 3rd, 2016 at 10:40am
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o use clear 100% silicone caulk.


I'd look to see IF you can find silicone caulk AND adhesive which is made for HOLDING as well as sealing. Even with that extra hold over 100% caulk I doubt it would stand up to the torque you'll be putting that foot brace through. I think that epoxy Wally used is the way to go. You'd hate to have that foot-brace come loose/off when you needed it the most.  Shocked Cry
  
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Reply #25 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 4:26am
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Mossback, sorry for the long delay in getting back to you.

Thanks for the nice comments on my website.  I enjoy taking the time with those details.

The Independence has 2.5" of rocker in both ends so it's pretty maneuverable.  I found that paddling it level involved a lot of strong correction strokes.  Leaning it 10-20 degrees made it more sensitive to correction strokes, thus easier to maneuver.  This is all well and good in moving water and flatwater with minimal wind.

When the wind picks up it's hard to control unless the wind is either directly ahead or astern.  I can't attach a picture of me paddling my Indy in a quartering tailwind but you can see it in the bottom half of this page: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).

I'm doing a strong sweep stroke on the left side, but the wake indicates the boat is slewing to the right.  And that's with my main pack behind me.  I just could not get the stern to stick deep enough to resist the yawing force of the wind.

Earlier in this trip, I was in a quartering headwind and crosswind, having the devil of a time controlling the boat.  So I lashed my two paddles together with a couple of velcro straps and made a short double paddle.  It's the only time I've done that and it worked great.  So your idea of doing it makes a lot of sense.

I sold the Indy two years ago.  It took two boats to replace it, a Blackhawk Ariel for rivers and a Hemlock Peregrine for tripping and other flatwater.
  
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