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Bear. Bear? Bear???
Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:09pm
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Every time I talk about Quetico with someone new, they immediately mention bears: "Aren't you scared of the bears?" ... "What about the bears?" ... "Oh, I'd be worried about the bears." etc. etc. etc.

Even my wife. No matter how many times I say that bears are the least of my worries (and that the odds are greater for twisting an ankle or a knee, wrenching my back, hypothermia, bouncing a camp ax off a shin, slicing a finger, lightning or a falling tree etc etc.) her parting words are "don't let a bear get you."

Except ... I've never seen a bear in Quetico. I just came back from my 16th trip, and I've never seen a bear. I've seen tracks, and fresh ones on two occasions, but never the real thing, claws and all. That's 13 trips through Prairie Portage, two through Stanton Bay and one through French Lake. 15 trips in September, and one in October.

The guy who organizes our trip, Smashdancer, has taken 39 or 40 trips, by his best estimate. And he's seen only three bears -- none of them close, and none of them recent.

So, my question to all QJ'ers: How many bear have you seen in Quetico (and how many trips have you taken)? Same question for trips to the Boundary Waters, I guess (and I separate the two because I'm wondering if there's a difference in Q/BWCA experiences).

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Reply #1 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:40pm
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I've seen about 6 in 20+ years of doing ALL but one trip in the Q. All were either on shore as I paddled by or I caught them swimming in open water.

Plenty of tracks, fresh scat on portage trails but never seen one although one time I could swear I heard one breathing in heavy brush along side pile of fresh scat on portage trail.

I keep a real clean camp, double bag food and until last year hung my pack. Also don't cook bacon or other items other than pan seared fish or cooked on fire, which I don't think sends out food odors like fish fried in deep oil would?

I also don't usually stay on well used campsites and the Q with so many sites and the ability to camp anywhere probably doesn't get the Yogi type bears like places in the heavily used BWCA do.

I still bring my Bear Spray just becasue I like to be prepared for the worst and I go solo. I fear injury/lighting/hypothermia or a window maker tree falling far more than any animal encounter.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:50pm
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I've done taken 12 trips +/-, and have never seen one while camping or paddling. I've seen plenty on the highway, especially between White River and Nipigon. I did see one on the 2 track back into Beavehouse once, standing in the road trying to get a better look at our van.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:58pm
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I did see one on the 2 track back into Beavehouse once, standing in the road trying to get a better look at our van.


  When Q-Dave was still in the outfitter business, he was driving me into BH when this huge brown bear crossed the road in front of us at full speed across an open section of woods.

Dave stopped the van and we both said " THAT was the biggest bear I've ever seen in CA!" Next year I bought/brought my UDAP Bear Spray which I still carry.

  You wouldn't beat THAT bear off with a stout stick of beaver wood, he'd be picking his teeth with it after he had you for lunch.  Wink Grin Grin
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:09pm
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Only once, in 50+ trips, have I needed to take my food pack away from a bear. (A great campfire story btw).  Wink

I've seen a few more. We had one visit my wife and I when we were on our honeymoon, 38+ years ago. While I don't fear bears, it would be foolish to not respect them and always be prepared! Cool
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:24pm
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Traveling the Quetico since 1978 and have only seen one while camping, although it was only my second or third trip.  It was on the opposite side of Crawford Lake in late afternoon.  At that moment Crawford Lake seemed very small.

I did pass by a steaming pile on a portage early one spring morning, so I did not linger long.

I saw an elderly (about my current age now) lady working at the outfitters kick a small one in the rump a few times to run it out of the gargage can it was rumaging in.

One more siteing in Northern Wisconsin on the interstate, a very large black bear who bawled loudly all the way across 4 lanes of traffic.

Have heard wolves on almost every trip, some sounded very close, but have only seen one.  It was leaving Atikokan, standing along the highway looking scragley, hungry and maybe sick.  It might have weighed 35 - 40 lbs.

While we are doing critter sightings, our September trip this year up and back the Falls Chain had my bowman pointing and stuttering about something he saw on the bank that darted back into the woods.  After showing him several photos when we had net access again,  I believe he saw a full grown Fisher.  I have never even heard of someone seeing one?

Apologies for drifting off Black Bear subject matter.

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Reply #6 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 6:11pm
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Mossback,

I've only seen two fishers in all of my trips.  Both were sighted at a campsite one afternoon on Lake Agnes back in the summer of 1990.  They came back to our camp later that night & woke my brother who immediately exited his tent and proceeded to chase them through the woods with a hatchet (he thought it was a bear... still not a good idea).

I've only ever run across a couple bears in any of the parks and those were at a distance, rolling rocks searching for bugs or something on a shoreline or hilltop.  I believe I've heard a few cubs bawling in the woods a few times.

Wolves?  I have been VERY close to entire packs howling within a 100 yards more than a time or two but have yet to actually see one in the wild.  Your 35-40 pounder seems like a real "lightweight" wolf (even if he was scraggly-looking); are you sure it wasn't a coyote?

Ran into an American Mink scrambling along the shoreline of Pickerel Lake only a couple week ago.  That may have been a first for me.  A real curious critter.  He stopped to consider me passing by, stared for half a minute, then resumed his shoreline trek seemingly quite unconcerned about me.

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Reply #7 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 7:04pm
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So Old Salt ... will you elaborate a bit more?

A "few" being like 3 or 6?

From the canoe? On the trail? In camp?

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Reply #8 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 7:06pm
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And I guess we could talk about wolves and fishers and pine marten in this thread, but I was sort of imagining a series of threads, maybe 37 or more, with bears being first, and then wolves, and then moose, otter, eagle, snappers, etc. etc. down to mice, with everyone telling their best mouse story.

Ha.

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Reply #9 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:14pm
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In Quetico: 

4 sightings, 4 bear?  #1:  Single bear--end of Lemay Creek on Kawnipi.  #2:  Sow & cub--shoreline; NE corner of Burntside Lake.  #3: Suzanette (west entry channel from Brent)...Large black bear began swimming across the channel (south to north) but spotted us before reaching the mid-point of the channel; reversed course and swam back to shore (quick shake and into the woods).  #4: SE portage out of Suzanette in the direction of Burt--Large black bear crossed the stream on a log and proceeded south down the portage ... I followed a few minutes later.  [I assume #3 and #4 were the same bear.]

1 sighting, 1 wolf.  North end of the channel separating Kawnipi and Murdock lake.  On a windy day, as I stood fishing the outflow of the west bank, a lone wolf crested the ridge on the east side and proceeded down toward the water, apparently looking for a drink.  The wolf was practically at the water's edge (perhaps 30 feet away) when he finally glanced over and spotted me.  He executed a quick 180 and proceeded back over the ridge in haste.  [Within 10 minutes, a deer appeared behind me and I've often wondered what would have happened had I not been there.]

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