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Reply #20 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 2:44pm
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Nice video. A few years ago the executive director of the Salato Wildlife Education Center in Kentucky was looking for a different place to paddle and I directed her to Quetico. She and her partner wound up going to Sarah Lake out of PP and came back with a tale of watching a big male black bear swimming across the northern end of North Bay. She said they actually had to coast their canoe to keep from running into it.

She also said they heard wolves all night long from their island campsite on North Bay.

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Reply #21 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 5:56pm
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chaga -

That was a heckuva good video!  Thanks for posting!

I was surprised to see THREE cubs.  For some reason I thought they generally had pairs.  That third cub seemed to have some sort of silver sheen on its right side & shoulder.  Maybe it was just the way the sunlight was hitting it.

Re: northern lights, I've been fortunate to catch them a few times.  However, the two very best shows (by far) were witnessed from the very same campsite on Jean Lake (35M), about eleven years apart, during the only two times I've ever camped there.  It offers a great vantage point since it's on a peninsula that juts out with a wide expanse of water to the NE.

Anyway, that was great bear video!

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Reply #22 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 7:24pm
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Jimbo wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
chaga -

I was surprised to see THREE cubs.  For some reason I thought they generally had pairs. 


I’m no expert by any stretch of the imagination on black bears, but some time ago I accompanied some researchers on a trip to the mountains in Eastern Kentucky on a cold, cold day to change the radio collar on a sow and put chips beneath the fur of her cubs.

(For those not familiar, after being all but extinct from Kentucky for many years, a couple of decades ago wandering bear from West Virginia re-established a population in the southeastern part of the state, and it’s grown so much that Kentucky allows a limited bear hunt each year.)

Well, that research trip didn’t go as planned – her den was out in the open (a dead-fall of a tree) … she “woke up” (black bears technically don’t hibernate but are in a state called “torpor” … the drugged dart malfunctioned … and she took off, leaving her cubs exposed with wind chills in the single digits and snow swirling. And radio telemetry showed she crossed several ridges and kept going.

Long story short, the researchers grabbed the cubs, put them in a pack in the back seat of my truck with the heat running as they figured out what to do. I have a picture of one of the cubs  sticking his head out of the pack in my truck.

The point is: There were three cubs (all male).

I read some of the subsequent research, and it showed that the average litter size in Kentucky was 3.1, with documented litters of two to five cubs. But the study I read acknowledged that the 3.1 was “more than any nearby location.”

For what it’s worth … I just thought it was interesting.

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Reply #23 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 7:39pm
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  The survival rate for young bear cubs of all species is low considering all the dangers they face in their young lives. Besides the quest for food and natural hazards, male bears will kill cubs in hope of mating with the mothers. Lions do the same. Since black bear populations are on the rise for that to happen the litter size would have to grow bigger too I would think.

  Great video and a reminder that just becasue you don't see them, it doesn't mean they don't see/smell you.
  
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Reply #24 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 7:51pm
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"A bear grabbing a pack out of a canoe seems a bit unnerving."

and that daypack had all our paperwork, including our wallets -
was 2 tandems, so we take one boat and all packs across first, adn then go back for the second boat and gear - the pack was in the first boat, which we had put in at waters edge and reloaded - the bear must have heard us coming and took off just before we came into sight.  There was some mud on the food bag, which was in that canoe too, but nothing bur the daypack had been messed with - couldn't figure out what had happened until a bit later, paddling down the lake I reached for my water bottle - it was empty! - had 4 holes in it from the bears canine teeth.


  
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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 3:30am
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Mad_Mat wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 7:51pm:
and that daypack had all our paperwork, including our wallets -


"I'm sorry, Mr. Patrol Officer, I don't have my homework I mean park permit. A bear ate it."
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:34pm
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At least four bear sightings over maybe 6 trips (all to Quetico).  All were while paddling, seeing bears in the water or on shore.  Never up-close.

I have had a few up-close encounters on adventures elsewhere.  While car camping, as we were loading the car to get underway in the morning, a bear strolled through our campsite completely ignoring us (food/kitchenware had already been stowed in the car). Another time what sounded like two bears wandered into our campsite (everything stored in bear-boxes) and we could hear them breathing from inside our tent.  My wife and son encountered one on a likeside trail on Glacier NP (while I and my other son were paddling down the lake).
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 6:09pm
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30 trips in Q and 5 bears inside the park while camping or paddling, not counting cubs with mom. Probably more on the road to/from trips.

This years Leaf River trip in Quebec we saw 8 during one morning paddle before our lunch stop. Lots of blueberries too. hmmm?
We had head high willows lining the banks, so it made for some nervous scouting.
  
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Reply #28 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:16pm
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thanks for the info.

it would be interesting to have answers from every QJ member and plot on a map where they've seen bears, and then of course factor in the month of the year.

Canadian park officials have probably done that, of course, but ...

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Reply #29 - Oct 25th, 2016 at 2:29am
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Great video!  It's strange how far apart they were swimming.  I assumed most animals with young would stay together on a lake.

  
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