QuietJourney Forums - Chapman's and Throw Bags

Guest Message

Hi there Guest,

It looks like you are enjoying reading our forum, so why don't you register an account with us to stop seeing this message and benefit from many more features. Registration is easy and will only take you a few minutes.

If you already have an account with us, then click here to log in.

Thank you,

db

(Moderators: DentonDoc, Jimbo, db)

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

Pages: [1] 2

Add Poll

Send Topic

Chapman's and Throw Bags (Read 9812 times)

MossBack Inukshuk Offline Posts: 505 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2010	Chapman's and Throw Bags Aug 31^st, 2017 at 4:30am	Quote Print Post
	A couple of things here. All of the QJ positive comments on Chapman’s were well founded. We used Doug in June and very much enjoyed our brief time with him. One thing he mentioned was the rangers growing insistence for canoes carrying a floating throw bag. He handed us a couple for the two canoes and sent us on our way. In all of the trips to the Q I have never even seen one on board a non-motorized craft. It sounded like a good idea anyway, so I bought a small one for my upcoming trip. Although it seems a bit less important on a solo adventure? Anyone else carrying one? Regards, MossBack


	IP Logged

Jimbo Moderator Inukshuk Offline Posts: 4599 Location: Florida Joined: Oct 6^th, 2002	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #1 - Aug 31^st, 2017 at 11:37am	Quote Print Post
	Mossback, Doug emphasized the same thing w/my party in late June. In fact I'll need to stop at his place tomorrow and pick up another one as I'll be doing a 10 day solo. In my case, I suppose I might be throwing it to the other solo paddler traveling with me if he overturns. He's so old he might easily just fall asleep on the water (wouldn't be the first time I've seen that happen). Hmmm... perhaps I should buy one for him, too. I ain't no spring chicken myself! That's the only rationale I can think of as to why a solo paddler might need one. Jimbo.


	Facebook AIM IP Logged

solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8107 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #2 - Aug 31^st, 2017 at 11:55am	Quote Print Post
	Good Luck on your trip Jimbo as well as the "old codger" you're going with. I get it with ANYONE but a SOLO paddler? If you go over, trying to throw a floating bag while IN the water would be just about impossible. Same with another SOLO paddler trying to rescue someone in a TRUE solo. I could see the person in the water inadvertently dumping you. I hope they don't make it a RULE for ALL canoes, insisting is one thing, demanding is another. In a pinch, you could tie a rope to a canoe paddle and toss it out.


	IP Logged

Jimbo Moderator Inukshuk Offline Posts: 4599 Location: Florida Joined: Oct 6^th, 2002	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #3 - Aug 31^st, 2017 at 12:55pm	Quote Print Post
	solotripper wrote on Aug 31^st, 2017 at 11:55am: Good Luck on your trip Jimbo as well as the "old codger" you're going with. Thanks, ST! I'll pass your regards on to MagicPaddler. He's already en route! [Of course he may lynch me with that floating throw rope I buy for him if he reads these posts before we depart. He is a well-known "tree-hanger," after all!] We'll likely be in or around Cirrus Lake, if anyone is in the vicinity and cares to check in. You won't miss our flag unless you're blind. I suspect keeping Magic restrained to mainly just one lake will be my real problem for the next 10 days. Just two weeks ago he covered around 21 lakes in a little over 6 days! I don't think he did much sleeping either IN the canoe or out of it! Jimbo


	Facebook AIM IP Logged

MossBack Inukshuk Offline Posts: 505 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2010	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #4 - Aug 31^st, 2017 at 2:18pm	Quote Print Post
	Jimbo, I do not know what kind of time constraints you are on before your trip starts, but here is a link to what I bought from Amazon. Small, light and $20 delivered to your door if you have PRIME. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Good luck and safe passage on your trip to Cirrus. Four of us were there in Mid-June. Fishing was slow and the bugs and rain were “interesting”. Still had a great time. Regards, MossBack


	IP Logged

Jim J Solo Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1195 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #5 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:01pm	Quote Print Post
	The 50' floating rope has been a rule for all canoes in Canada for some time. Plus a bailer, and if I remember right a light at night?? The bailer can just be a sponge and the rope also works as a nice ridge line for a tarp. Just make sure it's floating and 50'. Not really too hard to be legal. The rope doesn't have to be in a throw bag but it's nice way to carry it. One 50' painter that floats would work too.


	IP Logged

db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5460 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:20am	Quote Print Post
	It has been a long time and I'm curious and forgetful on certain things. Did/do the rules specify that they need to be handy? As in, is a pot buried deep in a pack legally considered a bailor? I seem to recall a Kapok(?) cushion type floating device being considered a dandy PFD at one time.


	WWW IP Logged

solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8107 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:38am	Quote Print Post
	The two rangers I ran into a few years back didn't ask about any of the mandatory items. I was wearing a PFD as usual and had 2 painter lines, bow, and stern. Not 50' single, but combined. Forgot a bailer but had a sound device and waterproof flashlight which you need for a big canoe. I'd wager that most paddlers don't have EVERY mandatory device. You read the regs and you see how people might get confused? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


	IP Logged

BillConner Inukshuk Offline Posts: 665 Location: Thousand Islands Joined: Apr 12^th, 2010	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:03pm	Quote Print Post
	I know some will dispute this and maybe it changed in last few years, but these regulations do not apply to US citizens in US owned craft. Go to the laws, not guides and summaries. And I don't question their value. Nothing forbids them and might save your life.


	WWW IP Logged

db Web-lackey Inukshuk Voyageur Offline Posts: 5460 Location: Just off the beaten path. Joined: Sep 14^th, 2002	Re: Chapman's and Throw Bags Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 7:18am	Quote Print Post
	Ya but, if you rent a canoe from a Canadian outfitter… Eh, whatever. I always carried a whistle on the PFD I don't normally wear. Way back when this was an issue, I realized why a pealess whistle made much more sense. I believe filling the throw bag with water is what makes it throwable. I use cheap, light 1/4 inch poly in an old tent steak bag. Fits in the bailer with room to spare. The bailor really helps organize things in the thwart bag and gives it shape. My bailor is a cut-off half gallon milk jug that I find I use quite often. It was, IMHO, the second best LE type suggestion ever (right after barbless). The best lessons come from other people's mistakes. Anyone else watch Alone on cable? There was someone a few seasons back splitting wood with her other hand half way down holding what she was splitting. I cringed. She swung and missed the wood. I think that easily preventable injury was what took her out of the game. Well that was easy. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


	WWW IP Logged

Pages: [1] 2

Add Poll

Send Topic

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›