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Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? (Read 11891 times)

TomT Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1052 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Aug 26^th, 2007	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #20 - Jan 30^th, 2018 at 6:38pm	Quote Print Post
	What does Placid Boats have to say about this? MP did they have any suggestions for you about portaging? I'll answer this. From their site: What's the best way to portage? Our boats come with two portage pads. They store on the thwarts and are placed on the rails for portaging. The boats are typically carried on one shoulder; the second pad protects your hip from the boat bouncing against it as you walk. We also offer a fabric portage yoke which allows comfortable overhead portaging.


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #21 - Jan 30^th, 2018 at 7:40pm	Quote Print Post
	TomT wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 6:38pm: What does Placid Boats have to say about this? MP did they have any suggestions for you about portaging? I'll answer this. From their site: What's the best way to portage? Our boats come with two portage pads. They store on the thwarts and are placed on the rails for portaging. The boats are typically carried on one shoulder; the second pad protects your hip from the boat bouncing against it as you walk. We also offer a fabric portage yoke which allows comfortable overhead portaging. There is 2 options that do not work very well.


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solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8105 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #22 - Jan 30^th, 2018 at 7:55pm	Quote Print Post
	Magicpaddler wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 7:40pm: TomT wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 6:38pm: What does Placid Boats have to say about this? MP did they have any suggestions for you about portaging? I'll answer this. From their site: What's the best way to portage? Our boats come with two portage pads. They store on the thwarts and are placed on the rails for portaging. The boats are typically carried on one shoulder; the second pad protects your hip from the boat bouncing against it as you walk. We also offer a fabric portage yoke which allows comfortable overhead portaging. There is 2 options that do not work very well. I can't think of ANY portage I've been on in the Q that I would want to carry a canoe slung over one shoulder. Shortest portage I've personally been on is that sand beach pullover on Quetico Lk into West Bay. You need to match the gear to the conditions you're going to be encountering the majority of the time. From what I've seen and experienced, I'd sacrifice lightweight for a little more toughness, because of the rocky put-ins/take-outs your going to encounter in the BWCA/Q. Other's will disagree and are willing to baby those hi-tech lightweight boats. If you don't mind doing that more power to you.


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boonie Inukshuk Offline Posts: 45 Location: WV Joined: Jan 4^th, 2018	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #23 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 12:23am	Quote Print Post
	I didn't consider those 2 portaging options good either and had heard you couldn't use the ordinary clamp-on yoke, which I suppose is why they didn't recommend it. I like Solus' idea, but . . . from Placid website: I don't see any screws or bolts holding parts in. How do you attach your footpegs, seats and other parts? Composites and drill holes don't mix. When holes are drilled through a hull it: 1) creates a hole in a perfectly good boat (bad idea); and, 2) creates a stress riser that will inevitably begin to crack as the part bolted through the hull flexes and the bolt "works" the composite. There are plenty of old composite boats out there with drilled and bolted outfitting to attest to this. We use a special marine adhesive to hold all of our outfitting in the boat. It keeps the lines clean and prevents stress cracks caused by hull flex at hole locations. It also allows us to put in custom attachment points for gear at customer specified locations. Our seats are also bonded in rather than sitting on top of the inner laminate. When a plastic seat sits on top of laminate, sand WILL eventually get between the two and it WILL act as sandpaper. From this I'd be concerned that drilling holes in it could impact the warranty.


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Magicpaddler Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1321 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Jan 7^th, 2004	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #24 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 12:56am	Quote Print Post
	From Boonies post. “We use a special marine adhesive to hold all of our outfitting in the boat. It keeps the lines clean and prevents stress cracks caused by hull flex at hole locations. It also allows us to put in custom attachment points for gear at customer specified locations.” So glue in a piece of wood and mount to that. I have paddle clips and battery holders and fish detectors all mounted on small pieces of wood that is glued in with Amazing Goop. I can remove any of the pieces of wood in about 15 minute with a putty knife. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #25 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 1:01am	Quote Print Post
	I agree with the hesitation to drill holes in such a craft. If I were to use a mount like i've posted I would sandwich the composite with a metal or engineered wood plates.


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TomT Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1052 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Aug 26^th, 2007	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #26 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 1:20pm	Quote Print Post
	Boonie are you checking it out bc you're purchasing one? Also, how about coming to Canoecopia this March? It's only a two day drive.


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boonie Inukshuk Offline Posts: 45 Location: WV Joined: Jan 4^th, 2018	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #27 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 7:13pm	Quote Print Post
	No definite plan to do so at the moment, but hopefully a canoe sometime in the not too distant future. A RapidFire is just one possibility, but I wanted to know the details on the question. It seems like even an unhandy guy like me could cobble together a workable solution if the fabric/web belt thing doesn't work well and I really wouldn't want my head stuck up inside the canoe. I'd like to come to canoecopia, but my wife wouldn't and I have other commitments for those dates. I might make eit to the Western Pennsylvania Solo Canoe Rendezvous for a day, but still too early to know for sure.


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Jim J Solo Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1195 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #28 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:44pm	Quote Print Post
	Boonie, you’re close to the Savage River shop. Check him out. He’ll do custom layups.


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boonie Inukshuk Offline Posts: 45 Location: WV Joined: Jan 4^th, 2018	Re: Portaging a Placid Rapidfire . . . ? Reply #29 - Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:14pm	Quote Print Post
	Yes, I am, maybe an hour. If and when buying becomes an option, I do plan to check out Savage River. It's possible I may go close by there sometime in summer with time to stop.


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