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Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:13am
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This has been educational. It sounds like most of you use them similar to the way I use cranks, as a search bait. I don’t carry much Gulp or Powerbait anymore. The cranks get the active fish. I can see where it would be productive to use a Lindy when the fishing is slow. Anyway, I’m working on a tackle reduction plan to simplify my options. I may miss a few fish, but as db pointed out, we don’t need many to have a fish dinner. Like Wally 13, when I locate waldo, I start jigging. That’s when I use plastic or the smelly baits.  Cool
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:34pm
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Old Salt wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:13am:
I’m working on a tackle reduction plan to simplify my options.

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Reply #12 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:38am
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Thanks wallee13. Good comprehensive overview. It's as much as where and when to fish this set-up as it is to know how I should go about putting one together.
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 4:39am
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db wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
I swore by variations of Lindy rigs as a kid. The spinner blade with the beads and a store bought smelly worm have worked for me after the live bait ban. Plus they are easier to troll solo since it's mostly just the line drag. Depth is key, I think, anyway.

The dam on Pickerel use to have crawlers so I use to bring a bulb with a needle to bloat 'em a bit but the smelly worms travel much better and work just as well IMO. Fish are stupid. Don't over think it. Right place, right time? I'd rather be lucky than good and I only need one for dinner er breakfast.


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Reply #14 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 11:07pm
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Wally13 wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
Lindy Rigging  and Bottom Bouncing are my "GO TO" presentations for walleye in Quetico.

In early spring walleye relate to shallow back bays especially where rivers and creeks come in. I early summer they begin to move to main lake shorelines off shore humps, long flats near deep water and island shorelines.

I like to fish for walleyes over last 2 weeks of June over the 4th of July as walleyes will tend to group in their summer haunts. However, water temps will determine how quickly they migrate to their summer homes.

I use Lindy Rig and Bottom Bouncer setups to FIND walleye then if they are grouped I will JIG them. If they can't be found in a group then stick with a Lindy or Bottom Bouncer setup as you can cover lots of water and catch scattered walleye. Just forward troll in your canoe around 1.5 - 2 mph near rock ledges near deep water basins and you will find fish normally in 10 to 20 ft. of water from mid June through July. Come august when the water warms the most, walleye can be in 30 ft. of water so you will need heavier weights like a 3 oz. Bottom Bouncer or 3/4 to 1 oz. Lindy weight.

I like to pull  4 to 6 inch Gulp/Powerbait worms/ 2 hook harnesses behind 1/2 -3/4 oz. Lindy Rig weights as my 1st choice. If the bottom is very rocky I will go to a 1.5 - 2 oz.  Bottom Bouncer set-up as it is more snag resistant. 

I like to use 10 lb. Trilene XT on my main line. Sometimes I will use 20 lb. Braid. I like to use pre -tied worm 2 hook floating harnesses. I really like a glow Colorado blade setup that Cabelas offered to use in stained water but they don't make them anymore. You can use 3 inch Gulp Killer Crawlers too behind a Slow Death Hook setup too to entice walleyes to bite if they are a bit lethargic.

Just position your Bottom Boucer or Lindy Rif lead weight to angle 45 degrees from the rod tip to water surface for best hook set and bottom control.  The Lindy Weight just drags on the bottom but you want to skim the Bottom Bouncer 6 inches off the bottom for best results.

I like to use a shorter worm harness snell ( 20 inches) if I am stained water as walleyes will normally stick more to the bottom in stained water and a longer (40 inch) snell if I am in clear water as walleye will often be a bit higher off the bottom.

I would just GOOGLE  " BOTTOM BOUNCING and LINDY RIGGING WALLEYE"  and there is a ton of info out there on these 2 methods for catching eyes. I just scratched the surface.








I can attest to Wally13's expertise re walleye.  But I have to ask you, Mike....you showed me the technique of using the Mack Lure Super Slow Death Rig last summer and I actually used in last fall with great success....it seems similar to the Lindy rig, but for me, who used the Lindy while growing up in southern Minnesota, that the death rig seemed much more productive.  Care to comment/enlighten us neophytes?
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:32pm
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We may have to ply him with beers to entice that information out of him!  Grin Grin
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 7:26pm
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HighnDry wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:32pm:
We may have to ply him with beers to entice that information out of him!  Grin Grin


Kind of like the old adage, ‘I provide free information. Good information costs extra.’  Shocked
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 5th, 2018 at 12:44pm
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Enjoy jigging for walleyes, but to stay on the topic.....I use a single spinner/single hook with some beads.  This can be tipped with bait, where legal, or some Gulp, etc.  I use this with an appropriate sized in line sinker (either keel or cylindrical ).  I love to slow troll this rig to find the fish and if I can localize them, on goes the jig!  So far it's worked well in BWCA, WCPP, Wabakimi and on Red Lake proper.
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Reply #18 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 1:38am
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Pine_knot,

Sorry to take so long to respond to your post a few weeks ago asking me for more info on how I fish  a Mack Slow Death Rig. I was on vacation for 2 weeks and when I got back to viewing QJ ... I must have missed your post. No worries ... I am back and vacation has recharged my battery and I will certainly give you my insight into this fishing tactic. No BEERS needed. LOL.

Slow Death Fishing is really nothing new but is really an adaptation to Spinner Nightcrawler harness fishing that has been around since the late 80's and early90's.  Instead of pulling a spinner blade and a double hook worm harness or spinner blade with single hook and minnow or leech, someone ( I think it was Bob Probst) took a 45 degree bent Aberdeen hook to the market with a trailing crawler and "Slow Death" was born.

This crazy "Bent Hook" madkes the crawler attached to the hook spin in a wide circle and  drive walleye to hit especially when they are neutral to negative. What makes this rig so effective is its ability to be fished at variable speeds ... sometimes as slow as .3 mph and still getting real good movement/action from the spinning crawler.

I like to pull spinner blade crawler rigs to cover lots of water when walleye are fairly active and aggressive. I often switch to the bent hook Slow death approach when walleye are more finicky and less active where I slow down and try to TRIGGER them to bite on the wide turning slow death rig threaded with 1/2 a crawler.

Mustad came out with a Slow Death Light Wire Long Shanked Hook several years ago and I like to thread a #2 slow death hook with 1/2 a live crawler and when in Quetico I use Gulp 3 inch  natural colored Killer Crawlers.

Mustad has since introduced a SUPER SLOW DEATH hook (Model #33863NP-BN) which is a heavier guage wire and its aggressive bend in the shank allows one to spin now even full length crawlers with deadly effectiveness. The bigger heavier guage hook will stand up to bigger 25+ inch females that I try to catch. A 4inch Gulp Crawler will spin very nicely on the Super Slow Death hook. The CORKSCREW spin is what triggers neutral to negative fish to bite. In fact, I have even caught walleye with slow death even when the dreaded MAY FLY Hatch causes poor fish catching using conventional methods like jigging and trolling crank baits and even pulling crawler spinner rigs.

You can pull Slow Death rigs behind a 2 oz. Bottom Bouncer weight or a 1/2 to 3/4 oz. Lindly slip weight.

When using a bottom bouncer weight I usually use braided line (Suffix 832  10 lb.) to the weight and then tie on  30 inches of  fluorocarbon leader to my Super Slow Death Hooks.

You can use a Lindy Slip weight  ahead of a #10 barrel swivel and tie on a fluro leader to your Super Slow Death Hook and crawler.

I use longer 30 - 40 inch  leaders in clear water and shorter 18 to 20 inch  leaders in stained water.

Mack Lures took the Super Slow Death Hook a step further and has a Super Slow Death Hook pre rigged setup with a Mylar blade in front with a bead , float, bead and Super Slow Death Hook. I really like this Mack Blade in front of a Super Death Hook as the mylar blade adds flash, color and vibration that seems to call in more walleye to the rig setup. .

There are a lots of slow death hook variations and I haven't tried them all. Matzuo's Rip N Roll 1/0 hook with a 5 mm bead in front of the hook with a 1/2 a Gulp Crawler  appears to be working with some walleye pro's.

Berkley has Fusion 19 Slow Death hook and may be a winner but I haven't tried it yet.

Ok ... my post has gone a bit long. Bottom line ... Slow Death is a proven winner. However,  I fished last June with Pineknot and found walleye fishing to be tough in the unstable and low pressure fronts that we encountered during our 10 day trip. Slow Death even couldn't bring in the walleyes on that trip. But more often than not,  I find Slow Death to be quite effective. 

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Re: Lindy rigs
Reply #19 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 9:22am
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Wally13,

I'm not even a serious fisherman but I really enjoyed and appreciate your detailed response to PK.  Smiley

  I have a few of those Mack rigs and do think that added flash helps. I read somewhere that someone cut the Death Hook off and tied on a snap lock and used a floating stick type bait. Idea its supposed to look like a bigger minnow chasing smaller ones.

I did that to one of my rigs and it seemed to be fairly effective plus the floating stick bait at an angle was almost snag-proof unless the slip weight wedged into some rocks.

Thanks again for taking the time to go into detail. Smiley
  
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