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Dec 26th, 2018 at 7:08pm
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OK, so if feels like the doldrums have settled in on QJ for the holiday season, giving me an opportunity to fill the void with yet another one of my ignorant questions.

I have been reading a recently published canoeing book where the author mentioned placing his large pack in front of him at his feet, and placing his small daypack behind him at arms reach.

This seems to be backward to me?

Other books and photos show the large pack snug against the rear of the seat and the daypack in front of the paddler’s feet.

At this point, I have little enough time traveling solo to form a knowledgeable opinion of my own.

Anyone care to weigh in?

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Reply #1 - Dec 26th, 2018 at 7:22pm
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This would be more of a center of gravity / load balance issue than the placement of specific packs, wouldn't it?  I mean, if you want to keep a straight line into the wind and reduce 'weather-vane' effect, you would place the heavier pack in front of you, no?  I assume you weight more than any pack you bring so the trim of your canoe should determine what goes where.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 26th, 2018 at 8:19pm
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I think PJ is dead-on with his comments.

Since I solo a tandem, how I load is different from a true solo in where I place my packs but the desired effect is still the same.

I want to slightly bow heavy 99% of the time unless I'm running with a strong wind at my back. Then I want to be stern heavy about the same degree as bow heavy.
Some solo paddlers because of their chosen canoe don't really have a choice where the big pack will go.

I think that's why many like the sliding seat option.
A little bit of direction with weight can make a lot of difference in how your canoe handles
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 26th, 2018 at 9:41pm
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I don't think it could be put more succinctly than PJ and ST said it.  I will add this can be applied in a current as well, such as paddling a river or stream.  If there is appreciable current - against you or with you, you want the trim to favor the upstream end, as the lighter end will always want to be ahead in the flow.  Usually not much of an issue in most of the BW/Q creeks and flowages.

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Reply #4 - Dec 26th, 2018 at 11:33pm
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OK, so if feels like the doldrums have settled in on QJ for the holiday season, giving me an opportunity to fill the void


Off topic, but you know what really fills the doldrums/void?

Some TRIP REPORTS!   Wink Grin Grin
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 3:31am
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Model of canoe is critical. Some hulls like a rear bias, some forward. Paddling an Advantage or even a Prism bow-heavy is frustrating in nearly any condition.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 4:13am
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I suppose what I should be doing is reading less and paddling more.  I am making several assumptions. Many solo travelers I have taken note of, have one large pack carried alone and another smaller pack carried with the canoe.  I assume most solo seats are near the center balance point, so the larger pack being close to that center would have a smaller effect, and a lighter pack to trim with as far forward as needed.
Some of what I have read suggests having minimal weight in the bow so it will rise over the waves in a headwind, taking on less water?    

With the solo canoe I have, the best spot for a large pack is just aft of the seat, because it is the widest spot available.  Everything forward of the foot brace is considerable narrower, making it more difficult to trim on the water.  Pushing with a paddle and pulling with a rope has been suggested and does seem to work.  All somewhat puzzling.

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Reply #7 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 4:46am
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Some of what I have read suggests having minimal weight in the bow so it will rise over the waves in a headwind, taking on less water?


I can't speak for your canoe but in that tandem paddling solo if the bow is light, in a headwind it wanders all over the place. Bow heavy it tracks true and just slices thru the waves. In your true solo that might not be the case as Solus points out.

Solus being a true solo paddler and having paddled many solo canoes would know how critical the hull shape is.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 6:24pm
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From Paddling .com and Kevin Callan, who seems to be generally in favor of a light bow.

Mostly adding to my confusion.

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Reply #9 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 7:12pm
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Mossback, I can't think of a true solo boat that you'd want your bigger pack in front of you, given the distance it would take to account for leg room. Better to have weight closer to the center and adjust trim with smaller packs even if they're out of reach.
Was the article you read talking about solo tripping using a tandem or tripping in general? If so then it would be true.

As for trim too much either way is too much. Different boats and conditions should only take slight adjustments either way once you're close to an even balance.

As for the doldrums, yes it is. But I'm waiting for snow. Come on blizzard.
  
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