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Reply #40 - Jul 19th, 2021 at 10:18pm
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For non-essential visitors entering Canada to go canoe-camping (‘discretionary travel’’ as they call it), I can’t see any situation where the quarantine plan would be an issue.

If CBSA doesn’t believe you’ve been vaccinated, they will stop you from entering. If they don’t believe the result of your Covid19 test, they will stop you from entering. If they give you a random instant test and you fail, they will prevent you from entering.

Or in any case, you yourself will choose not to enter, right? I mean,
Who in their right mind is going to come to the border and then ‘quarantine away’ the entirety of their vacation time in a motel?

Ridiculous. The quarantine plan was for people who were entering to stay, like new immigrants and international students, not short-term visitors.
  
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Reply #41 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 1:04pm
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Acipenser wrote on Jul 19th, 2021 at 10:18pm:
For non-essential visitors entering Canada to go canoe-camping (‘discretionary travel’’ as they call it), I can’t see any situation where the quarantine plan would be an issue.

If CBSA doesn’t believe you’ve been vaccinated, they will stop you from entering. If they don’t believe the result of your Covid19 test, they will stop you from entering. If they give you a random instant test and you fail, they will prevent you from entering.

Or in any case, you yourself will choose not to enter, right? I mean,
Who in their right mind is going to come to the border and then ‘quarantine away’ the entirety of their vacation time in a motel?

Ridiculous. The quarantine plan was for people who were entering to stay, like new immigrants and international students, not short-term visitors.


  I have ZERO faith in the bureaucrats handling the Covid issue on either side of the border.

  They've flip-flopped numerous times. I hope what you say turns out to be true but I'll wait till next year to see how it all fleshes out.

  My concern was more about what happens if you get Covid AFTER they let you into Canada. People that have been vaccinated are getting Covid. Not as bad but they still have to quarantine.

Imagine the cost if you have to stay in that motel in Canada after a trip if you get sick there.
  
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Reply #42 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 3:18pm
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solotripper wrote on Jul 20th, 2021 at 1:04pm:
I have ZERO faith in the bureaucrats handling the Covid issue on either side of the border.

As always, border measures remain subject to change as the (epidemiological, er whatever) situation evolves.

My personal crystal ball is indifferent but if knew I could only swing one trip this year or next, I'd seriously take the first window of opportunity offered.

Even with a late start, Canada has recently surpassed the US in vaccinations. Unfortunately, it looks like they too are now dealing with the obstinate and considering the nimbleness of this particular family of viruses, that window could easily close before we know it.

Besides, AFAIK, the US quarantine dealy is basically the honor system.
  
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Reply #43 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 5:16pm
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If you want to think of ways things can go wrong, have at it.  Personally, I am thrilled with the new information and will plan two trips this year.  How much can go wrong when all you do is cross the border at International Falls and drive to the Beaverhouse parking lot?  I am much more concerned about the fire danger closing the park than I am relative to issues involving Covid-19.  Actually, I am more concerned about bugs than I am about the Canadian government handling of the border crossing.  Furthermore, I think the fishing is going to be great this year because the fish have had over a year to recover from being attacked by all kinds of artificial lures
  
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Reply #44 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 9:56pm
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I'm with you. I'll just be happy to go and put in at Beaverhouse, do a trip and catch some stupid fish (caught by an equally inept and stupid fisherman Smiley )
  
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Reply #45 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 8:57pm
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Just don't try to cheat whatever system it is that they will be enforcing: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Jimbo   Cool
  
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Reply #46 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:25pm
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Border is scheduled to reopen August 9th.  I'm going up to the Yukon River again, taking a friend.  Easiest trip to plan for on short notice- no permits needed.  Logistics a bit harder this time though, as the Husky Bus service isn't running due to covid and no business, so will fly back from Dawson to Whitehorse to pick up the vehicle.

Tempted to spend a couple of days in Alaska after, but probably too many hoops to jump thru to clear the border.  Have to set up an account on ArriveCan" and fill in the blanks no more than 3 days before you plan to enter, and get a covid test no more than 3 days before entering - need proof of the vaccination as well.  Don't know how easy it would be to get that covid test in AK.

Ironically, I was within 2/10th of a mile of the border on July 24th, putting in on the N Fork Flathead river.  So I had to drive back to Denver to pick up my passport and covid vaccination record, though I would have wanted to do that anyway to get my good gear for the 2 week Yukon R trip and swap out for my PakCanoe.  Biggest issue right now is not being able to test the ArriveCan set up until 3 days before we plan to cross into CA.

I figure that I better get up there while the getting is good, before Delta hits harder and we are back to square one.
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 11:30pm
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I just read an article in the Cook County News Herald (Grand Marais, MN that states that while Canada will open their border on August 9, to this point the Biden administration has not reciprocated. Meaning that while you can enter Canada, there’s no guarantee that the US will let you back in. Might be advisable to stay tuned and double check info before crossing. Wink Wink

We’ve been getting a lot of smoke from Canada lately. Not sure what the connection is… Cool
  
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Reply #48 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 3:27pm
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Ya, I'm a wee bit jealous too. Oh and the sunsets...

You can always come home again ... something about fundamental rights bla bla constitution and honor system and stuff.
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 4:20pm
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Old Salt wrote on Aug 2nd, 2021 at 11:30pm:
I just read an article in the Cook County News Herald (Grand Marais, MN that states that while Canada will open their border on August 9, to this point the Biden administration has not reciprocated. Meaning that while you can enter Canada, there’s no guarantee that the US will let you back in. Might be advisable to stay tuned and double check info before crossing. Wink Wink

We’ve been getting a lot of smoke from Canada lately. Not sure what the connection is… Cool


I called the CBP at Grand Porage, OS. Their response was "there is no way we can keep you out of your own country"  Grin Grin Grin Grin

They actually laughed that much. Cheesy

Of course, I didn't ask if they'd let YOU back in.... Smiley
  
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