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Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Jun 4th, 2022 at 4:26pm
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Hello all. For my 2022 trip, my 5th trip to Quetico, I have about 20-21 days of canoeing possible, in the last 3 weeks of August. I’ve never been to the southern part of Quetico, except for Shade Lake and Kahshahpiwi.

I’ll be entering from French Lake, heading south through Sturgeon, down the Maligne River to Tanner Lake, then into the Darkwater (aka Darky) River. From here, I’d like to get east to Kahshahpiwi, but there are so many route options in this section. Travelling solo, in good health, and average to above average shape, male, 57 years old. Fishing only occasionally, so that’s not a factor/attraction.

I realize it’s a huge area, but…Are there some lakes in this area that are so pleasant that I must not miss them? Cliffs? Pictographs? Just lovely spots? Any highlights? If you had 5-6 days to traverse the area, what would you recommend?

Current thinking: Wicksteed-Darkwater-Brent-McIntyre-Paulene-Marj-Joyce-Kahshahpiwi….but the small lakes between Argo and McIntyre are calling my name, too.
  
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Re: Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Reply #1 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 5:42pm
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Here are a couple of my trip reports that cover some of the same areas you want to visit. Maybe they can give you some ideas?  If you don't have a Chrismar Adventure map for Quetico Park, get one.
If choice between McKenzie/Fisher maps and Chrismar for portage locations/distance, Go with the Chrismar  Wink

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Reply #2 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 7:06pm
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Thank you, solotripper. Yes, I have the Chrismar map. That’s the one in the photo. It has never let me down…well, it has only let me down once, due to the scale.

I’m currently looking at the burn intensity map from 2021 to help me plan. [url]https://queticosuperior.org/blog/mapping-the-2021-quetico-fires-where-blazes-bur
ned-and-where-to-paddle/[/url]

And I’m going to brew up a nice cup of tea and start reading your reports. Thanks again.
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Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2022 at 7:49pm
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They update their Adventure maps on a regular basis for those who use the Chrismar map.

My current one is from 2014. The one I linked to is from 2021. I'll be ordering that.

  
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Reply #4 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 5:23pm
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Thank you for the reports. I’ve changed my itinerary based on the burn map, location of pictographs, topography, and solotripper’s comments such as, ‘this is a lake I’d like to base camp on.’

My new route will be Minn-McAree-Black Robe portage to lac La Croix to see pictographs and climb Warrior Hill-
Then Bottle Lake- Iron Lk stop at Rebecca Falls- Curtain Falls-Crooked- Argo Lake either via single 950m portage, or through the Roland Lakes-
Cone-Elk-Hurn-Ted (more pictos)-
Fishhook/Earl -McIntyre-
Sarah-Side-Kahshahpiwi

I’m assuming if I stray into American waters or cross Bottle Rapids stream to get a better photo I won’t be tackled by Homeland Security agents hiding behind trees, right?  Huh
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 6:18pm
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I’m assuming if I stray into American waters or cross Bottle Rapids stream to get a better photo I won’t be tackled by Homeland Security agents hiding behind trees, right?  Huh


No problem. Just tell the HS agents that you IDENTIFY as an American and they'll let you slide.  Wink Grin Grin

I think you'd enjoy going thru the Roland Lakes vs that long slog into Argo?
  
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Re: Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Reply #6 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 6:22pm
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Free navigation along the border.

Enjoy your trip. Should be a great route. Love the lakes from Argo to McIntyre, though the fire may make some of the portages and campsites problematic

As Solotripper notes route through the Rolands is quite pretty. The eastern most portage between Argo and Crooked has recently been a short portage into a pond choked with standing timber followed by a mid-length carry into Argo. Easy the last time I took it. Terrible the time before that (18" of fresh snow).

One suggestion is to consider the route out of the north end of Sarah into Kahshahpiwi. Very pretty and relatively untraveled. Irene has a really nice camp (figures prominently in Solotrippers trek of woe) in the middle of the route. Also features the tallest trees I've seen in the park on the portages between Irene and unnamed and unnamed to Kahshahpiwi.
  
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Re: Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Reply #7 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 10:12pm
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Thank you for the suggestions.

I was just joking about the border. I know my history haha:

"It being understood that all the water-communications, and all the usual portages along the line from Lake Superior to the Lake of the Woods; and also Grand Portage, from the shore of Lake Superior to the Pigeon river, as now actually used, shall be free and open to the use of the citizens and subjects of both countries."

I guess my decision on which of the three ways of accessing Argo from Crooked will depend on the state of the burn. The Roland areas  was within the burn zone, but looks only mildly affected, so I’ll probably try that. The topography looks spectacular through there.

I had thought to check out Ted lake, to see some pictographs, but it looks moderately to severely affected, as is Fishhook/Earl, so I’ll either skirt this whole area by heading south via Cone-Elk-to Gardner Bay-Bart-Craig-Robinson-Tuck-Sarah or get advice closer to my travel date from park staff. They’ll likely know by then the state of portages through the burn zone.

I’ll definitely check out Irene lake. The lone campsite on the lake looks to be on the unburned side of the lake. And Google earth is showing some lovely cliffs en route to Kahshahpiwi.

Thanks again

  
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Re: Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Reply #8 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 11:39pm
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Being flexible and having a few different routes planned is the key.

You have 20-21 days that should give you time to maybe a few camp days on lakes you love and spend other days just getting thru ones that are less than you want to spend time in.

Hopefully the weather won't be so hot that it becomes a problem and worrying about staying hydrated is becomes a focus and not just a part of the routine.
  
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Re: Advice: Wicksteed/Darkwater to Kahshahpiwi
Reply #9 - Jun 8th, 2022 at 5:10pm
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I've seen the recent Q burn map and began thinking about times in the past when I'd make it a point to visit certain burn areas I heard about - some were recent - some were older - some were stumbled upon. I don't know of any easy comparisons I can point to on a map but I've seen places with unusual beauty that became basically impenetrable after a few years.

Part of me says wait until you hear more but the other part thinks - be this kid.

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While the analogy is far from perfect, I hope you understand the spirit I'm trying to convey. Ya never know.
  
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