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Posted by: paddlemaker
Posted on: Jul 1st, 2010 at 10:50pm
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jaximus wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 8:16pm:
... i never once have had issues catching fish up in the Q or even around my home waters of wisconsin.


Please let me know where you're fishing.
Posted by: Joe_Schmeaux
Posted on: Jul 1st, 2010 at 7:49pm
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db wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 5:20am:
Actually, over the years here the barbless idea was originally hated but has pretty much become embraced and even extended to other places by those who normally use artificials.


Here in Alberta, all sportfishing is barbless. British Columbia freshwater regs specify barbless in rivers, but allow barbs in lakes. So Q isn't all that unusual.
Posted by: wally
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 10:37pm
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jaximus wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 8:16pm:
thats my opinion and i favor the making it sporting and giving the fish a pretty good chance of beating me. i use light line, no barbs, single hooks, unscented soft plastic baits (i hate gulp with a passion) and i never once have had issues catching fish up in the Q or even around my home waters of wisconsin.



Pretty good chance of beating you?  Does the use of Gulp tip the odds into your favor?  The fish might disagree with ya.  Anyway, I always chuckle when folks seem to pat themselves on the back for giving the fish a better chance.

Nothing personal Jax.

The more I read this thread, the more I am convinced I just hate change....better or not.  Just leave me to the devices I've developed and I'm happy.  I don't like new concepts or ideas at all.  Even if a "better chance" for the fish.
Posted by: jaximus
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 8:16pm
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im a huge fan of the barbless thing and i fish barbless everywhere i go. it definitely does help keep fish alive because not only the damage done by pulling the barbs out, but also saves a ton of time when the fish is out of the water. i also think theres a hidden element of protecting people by the barbless route because its much easier to just back a barbless hook out of your hand than it is to pull a barbed one through and nip the barb, then back out. i also tend to favor single hooks on spoons and baits of that nature because the treble hook can really do damage to fish.

thats my opinion and i favor the making it sporting and giving the fish a pretty good chance of beating me. i use light line, no barbs, single hooks, unscented soft plastic baits (i hate gulp with a passion) and i never once have had issues catching fish up in the Q or even around my home waters of wisconsin.
Posted by: db
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 5:20am
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Joe_Schmeaux wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 1:20am:
But I am surprised to see the regs on these boards so unhappy about rules that make catching fish harder. From what I've read on QJ, you guys never have trouble catching lots of fish, and lots of big ones. Shouldn't it be the ones with minimal fishing skills (like me) griping about barbless hooks and worms and similar?

Actually, over the years here the barbless idea was originally hated but has pretty much become embraced and even extended to other places by those who normally use artificials. Live bait, slip-bobber aficionados? Well there's the rub, a problem I can understand all to well. First off it's a different type of fishing. That's why I asked about Gulp and slip-bobbers. Even if it produced as well, the challenge of keeping bait alive has become a useless art for Q fishermen & women.
Posted by: DentonDoc
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 5:11am
Joe_Schmeaux wrote on Jun 30th, 2010 at 1:20am:
But I am surprised to see the regs on these boards so unhappy about rules that make catching fish harder. From what I've read on QJ, you guys never have trouble catching lots of fish, and lots of big ones. Shouldn't it be the ones with minimal fishing skills (like me) griping about barbless hooks and worms and similar?

And then there are those of us who don't have any problem with it.  After all, it is call FISHING not CATCHING.  I've always prefered to "do battle" with the fish where the fish as a good chance of gaining an upper hand.  I suppose that is why I don't get any real pleasure in fishing in southern waters for largemouth bass where you select a line weight to insure you can muscle the fish out of his lair.  The only chance he's got is to quickly wrap you up on some submerged structure.  

BTW:  I only took in live bait once before it was banned, even then it was barely used.  Then, as now, I'm still looking for that favorite artificial lure that will kick it with the local fish population.

dd
Posted by: Westwood
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 3:26am
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Why do people complain.  Because it is easier to complain than to make a constructive comment.  Sure, Quetico is more expensive than the BWCA, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.  Now I do have to say that I haven't been in the BWCA for about 20 years so my memory of the BWCA may not be valid today.  I only enter Quetico from the north.  I view paying higher fees for Quetico as a way of supporting provincial parks.  I don't think it so much that Quetico is over priced , but that the BWCA is underpriced and subsidized by taxpayers.  My 7 or 9 day trip to Quetico is a lot less expensive than my winter vacation and more enjoyable than my winter vacation.  But my winter vacation keeps my wife happy.

Westwood
Posted by: Joe_Schmeaux
Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010 at 1:20am
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Actually, it wasn't the new immigrants that caused the blood pressure rise - my experience is that 99%+ of all new immigrants to Canada work their tails off to make a life better than wherever they came from. They get nothing in subsidies, they just pay. As the son of immigrants who arrived in Canada after the war with nothing, I have never forgotten where my head start in life came from.

But I am surprised to see the regs on these boards so unhappy about rules that make catching fish harder. From what I've read on QJ, you guys never have trouble catching lots of fish, and lots of big ones. Shouldn't it be the ones with minimal fishing skills (like me) griping about barbless hooks and worms and similar?
Posted by: wally
Posted on: Jun 29th, 2010 at 5:34am
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"Fair" preacher would be you diving in and grabbing them.
Posted by: Preacher
Posted on: Jun 28th, 2010 at 8:14pm
solotripper wrote on Jun 28th, 2010 at 7:55pm:
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First and foremost, a $4 discount for outfitter permits is a subsidy, plain and simple, paid for by the taxpayers of Ontario. Canada has way too many handouts to special interest groups, and I can't let this get by without objection.


I know Preacher is a Canadian, and I'm assuming from your blood pressure raising response too my comments, you are as well Wink

I know from talking to Q Dave and other Canadians I've met over the years, that those high tax rates you pay and the subsidies/handouts you mention are a source of anger/outrage by many of you.

Many here in the US, can sympathize! I know I do.
I'm guessing that your form of government, like ours will never eliminate them entirely.  I like too see my taxpayer subsidies go too groups that need a little help now and then, pay their taxes, work hard everyday, and contribute more than they take overall.

IF anyone deserves a little help, it's the little guys like the outfitters who are citizens and not the legal/illegal immigrants, many of them who take more than they contribute and plague your social system like they do ours. I know, it's not a PC thing too say out loud, but the figures don't lie Sad  That $4 for the outfitters I mentioned works as a multiplier when it's spent in the local economy, a good investment in my book.

I've never had a conversation with a Canadian that when the subject came up, they didn't express anger to how generous your social system is too new immigrants.  

I'm of the opinion we/you should take care of our own, before we take on the plights of others.





This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Yes I too think the gov should spend money where I think they should spend money and I'll go further to say that the gov shouldn't spend money where I think they shouldn't spend money.
Roll Eyes

All this over a barb on a hook?  Learn how to fish.  Make it sporting.  It is called sport-fishing isn't it?   Wink
 
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