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Barbs in your tackle box?
Jun 22nd, 2010 at 3:59am
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I've tried to read the Ontario fishing regs, but I still have a question... or two. 

We are going to Quetico in August...

1. I understand that we can just smash down the barbs on our hooks and that is acceptable. But can we have hooks in our tackle box that have not yet been barb-smashed?  Would we get in trouble for that if a ranger were to inspect our gear? (We'd like to practice just-in-time barb smashing to avoid smashing a hook that may not even get used on this trip.)

2. Also, I understand that live bait is prohibited. Presumably that is intended to avoid introducing invasive species. The way I read the regulations it is also against the rules to  use minnows or leaches you might catch on the same lake where you plan to use them as bait?  Do I have that right? No live bait, no matter where it comes from?

Can anyone clarify the nuances of these rules for me?

Thanks!!

  
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Reply #1 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 5:13am
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No live bait in Quetico no matter where it comes from.

Barbs can be smashed just before you use them and yes you can have lures in your tackle box that do not have smashed barbs. This was verified by Quetico rangers to me just last week at Prairie Portage.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:25am
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KF is correct about smashing barbs as they are used. It's what's attached to your line that matters. What does smashed mean? To me it's crushing the barb down as much as possible. Not so easy with the big hooks on bigger baits. There will still be a lump in any case. I actually prefer using the smashed barbs to their non-smashed originals.

Nothing live no matter where it comes from. In a way it would be kinda foolish to put live bait on a barbless hook anyway. Live also includes things that were once live like salted minnows, frozen smelt ....

Smelly type Power baits and Gulp are a good alternative. Has anyone tried that type of stuff on a slip-bobber? I know a fake leech on a spinner rig works.

FWIW - Lead is fine for the foreseeable future due to industry pressure.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:47am
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Very helpful!! Thx

That brings to mind one more question... Are treble hooks also on the chopping block at some point in the future?

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Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am
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PJin, not only trebbles but electronics and ultimatly fishing will be on the chopping block.  For that matter, some would also like to see you and I out of there as well....since we are indeed alive.   Ok, I jest, somewhat.  There is a certain faction up there....
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 3:35pm
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wally wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 11:31am:
PJin, not only trebbles but electronics and ultimatly fishing will be on the chopping block.  For that matter, some would also like to see you and I out of there as well....since we are indeed alive.   Ok, I jest, somewhat.  There is a certain faction up there....


It's no secret park usage is declining. As less and less paddlers who fish use the park, the small but vocal ones who would like to see the park use limited to photographs only will be looking to set the policy.
 
Nothing against the non-fisherman/women, I enjoy their work and like to take pics as well.

Remember the ban on bear hunting? Not driven by science, but by emotion, fanned by PETA folks from Toronto who had the money and political clout to get their agenda pushed thru.

Their video of a so called hunter violating the bear hunting rules made it seem like that was a everyday occurrence Sad

Even though the legitimate sportsman's groups, biologists and outfitters and rural folk who's livelihood depends on the cash spent by hunters, cried foul, the damage was done.

The vast majority of people both here and in Canada are not sportsmen.  Many have the "Bambi" mentality when it comes to hunting and fishing. The seem to have no idea that whether you buy your meat/fish in a market, or catch it yourself, something dies so you can eat. There easily swayed by clever PR designed to show sportsmen as cruel and inhumane people who butcher living things, strictly for the thrill of it.

Peta's ultimate goal is too have everyone be a Vegan. Nothing the matter with being one, but that's a personal choice, not one that should be forced down our throats.

There sophisticated enough to their victory' a little here, a little there.
As less and less young people take too the woods and streams, their job gets easier and easier.  First it will be the ban on hunting and fishing in areas funded by the general public, then it will be the supermarkets and food combines that supply domestic fowl and meat.

Might seem ridiculous at first thought, but that's what the people who's livelihood depends on outfitting hunters, said about the bear hunting ban.

Science doesn't stand a chance when met by clever PR and emotion fueled by ignorance.








  
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Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 2:24am
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I've fished a lot with barbless hooks up in Manitoba. I accually didn't have a problem with it. I've caught the biggest fish in my life on barbless along with limits of nice Walleyes. But I agree with Solotripper on this, for those pushing for barbless... it's never good enough, it would be the next step. If barbs were hurting much they would have been outlawed years ago. If they were a problem it would be fish biologists or the like pushing for it. Not special interest.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 12:04pm
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How long has the barbless hook rule been in effect for Quetico?
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 2:06pm
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I have no problem with a barbless rule.  I fish barbless anyway.  Same with live bait rules.

Yes there are groups that want to outlaw sportfishing.  They're in the nutjob minority and I trust officials & lawmakers know that.  Parks & the gov't make a lot of money off anglers and they know it.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2010 at 2:28pm
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I answered my own question Wink


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