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Reply #90 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 1:18am
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Azalea, IMO
#24     A dull axe, like a dull knife, is more dangerous than a sharp one.
#36     I am not sure I could survive a camping trip without coffee, and I bet there are others of like mind…
#76     Night-time pee bottle should have a good cover, and be placed outside the tent.  You are right about the accidents, but not going out into the mosquitos in June/July   IS  worth it (‘specially for those of us that have to bare our butts!)

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Reply #91 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 1:25am
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I am glad the thread was so well received.
I actually do not think, except for a very few first "rules", that there is any real order to the list or that there needs to be any priority order to the list.
I thought to call it "suggestions" for fail-safe camping, but that just didn't have the same punch.
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Reply #92 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 1:38am
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you did great IC.  thanks.  btw...i think coffee should definately be considered "fail-safe".
if you tend to forget coffee....pre-plan and have ALOT of advil for the DT headaches that would follow.

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Reply #93 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 3:21am
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Well, actually, SOME of us are decaffeinated!   Wink

Great list.  You don't have to agree with every single item to still appreciate the total effort.  This has been a good thread, and the result is very thought-provoking.

  
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Reply #94 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 5:13pm
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RE: coffee....maybe we should have said "don't forget your favorite 'comfort' food".  I see coffee as that nice little break that will cheer you up, if wet, cold, exhausted, exasperated, crabby, etc.  I also always bring my favorite 'comfort clothes' to change into (something soft, warm and fuzzy),  and jelly beans!   Grin
  
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Re: 99 Rules for Fail-safe camping
Reply #95 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 5:32pm
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First ... FANTASTIC JOB!   Smiley Smiley Smiley  As soon as this drifts off the first page, its being added to the "HOT SPOT."  It should be a "first read" by anyone becoming interested in canoe camping and a "refresher course" for those who have been doing it for a while.  I was even wondering if Stu might be interested in publishing the list in an upcoming BWJ issue.

intrepid_camper wrote on Mar 1st, 2007 at 5:13pm:
RE: coffee....maybe we should have said "don't forget your favorite 'comfort' food".


I was thinking the same thing ... "comfort food."  

Also, I've been taking my "pee bottle" into the tent for about the last 10 years.  My version is more like two zip lock baggies (one inside the other) that are "air tested" before I crawl in each evening.  It doesn't always get used, but as you get older the urge to go in the middle of the night is more pronounced.  And it almost never fails ... the urge will hit in the middle of an overnight rain storm ... maybe its the sound of the rain drops hitting the tent's rain fly.

And yes, the container get's sent outside the tent after use.  (My long time traveling partner DIDN'T do that once to disasterous consequences.  The line by Alan Shepard from the "Apollo 13" movie comes to mind.)  Its dumped in deep in the woods the next AM, rinsed and placed over a small bushy branch to dry (if a layover day) ... and I've yet to loose one, even on a windy day.

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Re: 99 Rules for Fail-safe camping
Reply #96 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 8:50pm
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Excellant list!!!  Just one question to pose concerning Rule 86- "Don't dispose of fish guts in or near camp."  

My thoughts are that I would leave fish guts at the shoreline, away from camp so various critters would clean them up (seagulls appear almost instantaneously).   I wouldn't throw them way out into deep water because on really clear lakes I think they wouldn't get cleaned up very rapidly.  Does anyone else want to share their opinion on this?

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Reply #97 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 9:07pm
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Re: Fish guts

Personally, I like to leave the fish guts near my campsite along the shore.  I always put them in a position where I can watch the gulls and eagles come in and fight over them, while I am frying up dinner.  Not once in my memory can I recall fish guts lasting longer than 30 minutes from when I put them there.

Now I do understand that QP is telling folks to dump the guts into deep water.  The reason being that they feel that leaving the guts out creates an unnatural population of gulls in the park.  I'm sort of torn on this.  I like watching them eat the guts, and really enjoy the game of seeing how long it takes from when I pull out the fillet knife and I spot one flying in.  But if it is bad for the system, I guess I'll learn to dump them.
  
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Re: 99 Rules for Fail-safe camping
Reply #98 - Mar 2nd, 2007 at 12:33am
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lotalota,

i'm confused on the gulls issue Huh Huh
There MUST be a sizable resident gull population in the Park on any given day??
Like you mentioned, I've never had fish guts last more that a few minutes after the first gull come's in.
i guess what I'm asking is how that practice brings in a unnatural population into park??
Do the gulls get on the GULLCELL, and call there buddies outside the park and tell them about the meal they've found??
Not trying to be funny(well maybe a little), but I thought gulls are in the park because there is a abundant food source not dependent on the occasional fishermen's gut pile??
IS there science behind this or just speculation??
ANY QJ biologists out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this??
  
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Re: 99 Rules for Fail-safe camping
Reply #99 - Mar 2nd, 2007 at 12:53am
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solotripper,

I'm not sure where I saw or heard that about the guts in the water.  I remember a ranger telling it to me, and it may have been in the '06 park guide.

I'm not sure if there is any science behind it, or if it is just someone's theory.
  
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