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Poll
Poll closed Question: See scenario in first post
*** This poll has now closed ***


Take the lessor campsite    
  7 (18.4%)
Take the better campsite    
  11 (28.9%)
Take your chances with the next lake    
  15 (39.5%)
None of the above - Something else    
  5 (13.2%)




Total votes: 38
« Created by: db on: Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:47am »

 25 Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection (Read 17735 times)
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Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:47am
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Here's the scenario:

You intend on staying two nights on a lake that has two obvious campsites. The next lake is farther than you intend on traveling that day but decent and doable with some effort. It only has one mediocre campsite.

One of the two sites on this lake is awesome with a big front porch and 4 great tent pads but it's beat (over used). The other kind of sucks with four obvious tent pads, one good, the others progressively less so and the landing is a challenge so it's rarely used and in rather good shape.

Both are open and within sight and earshot of each other and you know there is a big group behind you although they were far enough back that all you can make out is four identical canoes and a number of figures moving around.

Q: As a solo or two person group, do you leave the nicer campsite for the bigger group and take the less desirable site - or take the better one - or move on and hope for the best?

You can only choose one answer but members might be able to delete and/or change it. (I think) I set the "Time limit for deleting vote:" to 30. I'm assuming that's days and I expect I can change it if it's hours or minutes - we'll find out together eh?. No-one can see the results until the poll is closed. Will someone please remind me to close it mid May?

How do you work this thing anyway?  Grin
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #1 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:32am
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This one requires some thought because you know the big group is behind you. What becomes even more tricky is claiming a big beautiful windblown campsite with a great view only to have a big group pull up later.

That is exactly what happened to me when I flopped at the big long Peninsula site on North Bay adjacent to the side lake portage. Just before a hard rain I did just get the tarp up and my little MSR Zoid tent. Then I settled in to await the arrival of my partner feeling lucky to have secured such a nice spot so late in the afternoon.

Before his arrival however, a group of 3 boats beelined right to me and since my canoe is small and blends in well (same with tarp and tent) they got pretty close before realizing I was there. They clustered up murmuring and glaring at me for what seemed like a very long time. I suppose I can't really blame them for being sore as this site is ideal for a large group. If I hadn't already set up I likely would of moved for them. No words were exchanged but I had the bear spray out just in case things got testy ( for crying out loud, I'm kidding about the spray.........I wouldn't of used it unless they actually landed).
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #2 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:32am
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I voted.  But I think it would be a better poll if you told me the time of day when I was making this decision.  If it is 1 PM I might make a different decision than at 4:30.  Just a thought.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 2:21pm
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Agree with Spartan2.  Never have I ever had a person or group leave a campsite for my group when we had a larger group.  However, I've shared a campsite with a small group a couple of times when conditions were bad (windbound, lightning, hypothermia, etc.)
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #4 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:07pm
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I presumed that making the next site didn't pose any risk other than an extra hour or two of travelling.  One wasn't going to be forced to set-up in the dark or cross open water during a thunderstorm.  That the worst case was asking to share the next site if occupied or set-up on the portage or other less than ideal location for one night.


Move on, take my chances.  Mostly because of the noise that tends to come with groups of 4+ people.  Though there may be other circumstances that make the added security of a group near attractive, kinda rare though.


Ideally I would chat the group up and find out where they intend to camp if the opportunity presents itself.  If they mention the same site I'm bound for, mention that there's a race on.  I've pulled up to sites at the same time as others before with that awkward moment before one group grows a pair and stakes a claim.

In my experience the etiquitte is that if you know there are folks behind you and another site ahead of you, leave them the closer & more appropriate site for their group.  This is mitigated by the solo paddler needing to TCB & if you're out-pacing tandem folks - you rock & they suck.  Solo changes my priorities a little from allocating based on what's appropriate to making sure I'm safe.

One should be prepared to share their site for the night if there aren't *any* other sites that can be gotten to before sundown.  Fault & poor planning be damned when the sun is setting an folks need to make camp.  Something I find is missing from some contemporary trippers.  Often folks behave like they've founded a nation when they make camp.  Back in the day any port in a storm was the norm and the occasional shared firepit respects the people & the land.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:07pm
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first come, first serve, first choice

the choice is yours...so no wrong answer re the group behind you....whatever you choose will be appropriate, because you are there first.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #6 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 7:14pm
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I voted for moving on. However I wouldn't put my personal safety at risk in doing so.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #7 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 10:27pm
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Mostly, I'm with Wally.  First come-first served.  However, I'm rarely ever first-come.  I usually will still be paddling up until 7:00 PM or later before I really start looking for a site. 

No vote for me.  I'd be open to making all three choices depending on my own personal circumstances.  I wouldn't deliberately stiff a group from the only site that would work for them, though, unless it was also the only site that would work for me.
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 20th, 2010 at 12:39am
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I use a hammock.  Anywhere I can land the canoe (in Quetico) is fair game for my campsite... presuming I can find trees.

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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #9 - Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:30am
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Always move on for me. I'd camp anywhere rather than within earshot of a large group when I'm solo. It's just not the solo experience when you camp near larger groups.
  
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