10 Spinning vs Baitcasting gear (Read 6079 times)
Kerry
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 427
Location: Toronto
Joined: May 13th, 2010
Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Nov 11th, 2010 at 3:54am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Last summer I was schooled in the art of baitcasting and just fell in love with the feel, range and sophistication of the equipment.  So now I'm wondering about taking it with me on extended backcountry canoe trips.  Aside from the pleasure I get from using a baitcaster it has other advantages in terms of being less bulky.  But every time I mention baitcaster in relation to backcountry canoeing I get cross eyed looks.  I also notice that I almost never see folks in the bush with other than spinning gear.  What do you use when you head out to canoe country?  Are there any canoeing baitcaster afficianados out there?  What do you estimate are the pros and cons of either style of fishing in the context of backcountry fishing?  All observations and opinions are gratefully solicited.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
DentonDoc
Voyageur
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 3464
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Dec 27th, 2003
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #1 - Nov 11th, 2010 at 4:49am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Kerry -

Until somewhat recently, I've taken BOTH.  I'd use the baitcasting setup mostly for trolling and jigging.  I'd use the spinning gear mostly for casting.

However, in an effort to reduce overall weight, I now only take a single rod/reel combo ... a spinning reel setup.

dd
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Old Salt
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 4865
Location: Crossville, TN
Joined: Jun 17th, 2004
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #2 - Nov 11th, 2010 at 4:56am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I take a baitcaster with a line counter that I use for trolling. I also take a light spinning rod for bass, and a heavier spinning rod for pig waldos.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
jaximus
Senior Member
Offline



Posts: 343
Location: wisconsin
Joined: May 12th, 2010
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #3 - Nov 11th, 2010 at 3:08pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
both! options are good!
i bring a baitcaster with super line for trolling and jigging the big stuff. on the trip in to the lake where we plan to make our base camp i only have my baitcaster out. the jigging rod(2 piecer) is taped together and the reel is stashed in my pack. it makes for very easy portaging. the baitcaster is out for trolling for lakers. because the fishing pressure up in the the Q is very minimal, you can get away with bigger baits. i use the baitcaster rigged with a bigger jig to quickly cover water and find active fish. the heavier baits are also nice for locating structure and the bottom depth. this last year i ended up using my baitcaster almost exclusively because the fish were hitting really well on the 3" tube jigs with a 1/4 oz jig. i find that to be too big for my jig rod. plus its nice to have 2 rods for the option of a big bait and a small bait without having to change whats on your line.


i also bring a small spinning rod with light line for finesse fishing for walleyes. generally i use this when we are in shallow water and we have found a school of active fish that seems to have slowed down biting. then i switch to smaller lighter baits that would be too light to cast with a baitcaster.

its mostly a matter of preference. if you fish with primarily baits that are heavy enough to cast with a baitcaster then you can get away with just having the baitcaster. if you fish with a wide variety of sizes and weights you should probably bring both. i would never go into canoe country without 2 rods just because of the chances that one rod might get broken and nothing spoils a trip like not having fishing gear! i personally find having 2 rods rigged with different sizes/shapes/colors to be invaluable when it comes to fishing.

the disclaimer i would put on my advice is that when im in canoe country my primary reason for being there is the fishing. so my opinion is pretty skewed in favor of more stuff.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Preacher
Contributer
Subscriber
Offline



Posts: 1327
Location: COTU
Joined: Apr 10th, 2010
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #4 - Nov 11th, 2010 at 6:53pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I think the prevalence of spinning rigs is due to how easy they are compared to baitcasters.  I'm no good with a baitcaster.  I've tried.  It's birdsnest city.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Westwood
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 669
Location: Was Minnesota Now Iowa
Joined: Mar 4th, 2005
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #5 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:51am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Kerry,

I haven't ever used a baitcasting reel (other than for fishing muskies) so I never took one into the back country.  This year I invited a newbie from St. Louis who fishes in bass tournaments.  He only brought bait casting reels and they worked very well for him.  He was primarily casting spoons for northerns and some Rapalas.  For casting spoons, the baitcasting reels worked very well for him.  He did, however, have a very good quality reel.

As far as I could tell, his reel worked just as well as our spinning reels.

He had never caught northerns before and he really enjoyed catching northerns.  He even caught a 48 inch northern.  He did not, however, catch a lake trout.  Maybe next year.

Westwood
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Ancient_Angler
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 353
Joined: Apr 21st, 2006
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #6 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:21am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I'd agree with virtually all above. A matter of preference. In my bass boat, I carry multiples of everything. When I fly-in for pike, I take 2 fly rods, 4 bait casters, 2 spinning rods. When I go to Quetico, I take one 5 and a half foot bait caster and 12-pound test line. Lakers, smallmouth, pike, walleyes -- they all get caught on the same rig. I'm in the "minimalist" school with everything when I have to carry it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Kerry
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 427
Location: Toronto
Joined: May 13th, 2010
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #7 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 2:59pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I'm definitely leaning towards giving a baitcaster a try.  Where I'm headed the fish get pretty big and my favorite baits are cranks which tend to be over 1/4 oz.  So a baitcaster will probably be perfect.  The one problem I'm having is finding a good 2 piece rod.  The only thing I've been able to find is the Shimano Compre at around $100 and the G Loomis Mag Bass at around $425.  Anyone know about anything in between?  I want to pair the rod with a Shimano Chronarch reel.  By the way, thanks for all the feedback so far.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Old Salt
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 4865
Location: Crossville, TN
Joined: Jun 17th, 2004
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #8 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:16pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Why do you want a 2 pc rod? Why not go with a 1 pc?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
jaximus
Senior Member
Offline



Posts: 343
Location: wisconsin
Joined: May 12th, 2010
Re: Spinning vs Baitcasting gear
Reply #9 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:34pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I looked long and hard for a quality 2 piece rod for a baitcaster, but I found no such thing unless you wanted to spend a ton of money. Try looking at the Gander Mountain website and they have a few 2 piece baitcast rods. Some are Gander brand and some are St. Croix. I've had both St. Croix and Gander Mountain rods and my personal preference is to go with the Gander one. The rods are relatively inexpensive but really nice quality. My favorite rod is actually from the clearance section of Gander. The best part of getting a rod from Gander is that you can buy lifetime warranties for them ($6-15 range for the warranty) with full replacement no questions asked. You bring the rod in broken and they give you a new one.

The problem with 2 piece rods is that they tend to have to be really tight fitting or they come apart while casting. The way you cast with a baitcaster puts direct pressure on the joint where as with a spinning rod, you cast with an arc so the joint doesn't have nearly the same amount of stress.

What I ended up doing was dropping my pursuit of a 2 piece rod and getting a rod from Gander with the warranty. It just seems to be that the single piece rods are more sensitive, durable, and generally a better quality overall.

Another thing I would like to mention in your pursuit of a rod would be to make sure that the rod you get has a long handle. I would steer away from the pistol grip rods. The long handle allows you to use the reel as a pivot point and if you grab the very end of the handle you can get some really nice snap on the tip of the rod to get the maximum distance out of your casts. Also, the longer handles tend to be round and cork so they are quiet and much easier to use with a rod holder in a canoe. I also like the long handle because if you ever fish alone in your canoe or are responsible for landing your own fish, it is easy to hold the reel tight and stick the end of the rod inside your elbow/along your forearm to keep control of the rod tip and the fish while only having to use one hand.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 

 
  « The Put-In ‹ Board  ^Top