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Reply #10 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 7:29pm
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Above, I said I used a 5 1/2 foot rod. I prefer a longer rod, but I carry the smaller one because I can lash it against the thwarts when it is not in use. I try to have no items that need to be hand carried on portages. Longer rods, when lashed against the thwarts, do not snuggle to the gunnel as well as the shorter rod.

As for the long handle, the principal advantage, in my opinion, of the long handle is that it permits two-handed casts. Two-handed casts are much more accurate than the single-handed jobs.

Many years ago, ferrules were weak spots in rods. No longer the case. If you can find a two-piece bait caster, go for it. Bass Pro Shops has some two-piece bait casters. I have a two-piece Bass Pro Shops Pete Maina rod (no longer sold under that name) and a two-piece St. Croix. If I were going to go to a two-piece rod, I would make a rod tube of PVC pipe and lash the rod tube to the canoe, backpack, or stuff the tube in a backpack.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 9:53pm
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Old Salt wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:16pm:
Why do you want a 2 pc rod? Why not go with a 1 pc?


Well I know everyone has their way but I have found after considerable experimentation that what has worked for me with my spinning gear is a two piece rod split and loaded in a rod case pretty much ready to go.  How various folks carry their rods, lashed or whatever, has been argued to death on this and other sites.  To anyone who has a system that works for them, I say more power to you.  But I've been very happy with the ease of use and accessibility with a 2 piece.  Of course, as Jax points out, baitcasting is a different animal and I'll either have to shell out some serious bucks (G Loomis makes a beautiful 2 piecer but they put a real bite on the wallet), rethink how I want to manage carrying my rod and reel or just forget the whole thing and stick to my spinning gear for backwoods canoeing.
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:02pm
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Ancient_Angler wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
Bass Pro Shops has some two-piece bait casters. I have a two-piece Bass Pro Shops Pete Maina rod (no longer sold under that name) and a two-piece St. Croix.     


That's helpful.  I see where St. Croix makes a 2 piece in their Premier line and I know that Shimano has a 2 piece in their Compre line, both around 100 bucks.  Has anyone used either by chance? But I'm looking again at that G Loomis rod and licking my chops but I don't know if I can justify it.  Do I have to?  The curse of the bait monkey!
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 1:07pm
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I run pack rods...the three fit into two 20" tubes that tuck into the sides on the GG packs that I run or bungie toggle to the thwarts. St.Croix makes them in spinning and bait casting models, a company that makes a decent rod in my opinion. I also have been lucky to pick a couple up that are very affordable over the years (still in service) that are not of the previous persuasion, one could also pursue the the endeavor too through the making of one, as the blanks are available ... just find a fly shop that has the support of rod making classes, then you could make what you want. Wink
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 4:26pm
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Been years since I made a rod from a blank, but it's easy to do. Fenwick used to provide a set of instuctions to all who bought a Fenwick blank. Cabela's sells blanks in various dimensions. Lot of satisfaction in using a rod you made yourself.
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:52pm
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Kerry wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 9:53pm:
Old Salt wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:16pm:
Why do you want a 2 pc rod? Why not go with a 1 pc?


Well I know everyone has their way but I have found after considerable experimentation that what has worked for me with my spinning gear is a two piece rod split and loaded in a rod case pretty much ready to go.  How various folks carry their rods, lashed or whatever, has been argued to death on this and other sites.  To anyone who has a system that works for them, I say more power to you.  But I've been very happy with the ease of use and accessibility with a 2 piece.  Of course, as Jax points out, baitcasting is a different animal and I'll either have to shell out some serious bucks (G Loomis makes a beautiful 2 piecer but they put a real bite on the wallet), rethink how I want to manage carrying my rod and reel or just forget the whole thing and stick to my spinning gear for backwoods canoeing.


Not looking to mess with your system, but...

I have a 3" diameter PVC about 3 1/2' long, strapped in behind the bow seat under the thwarts and gunnels on one side of canoe. It can hold up to 5 rods. I just rest the butts on top of the thwarts in front of me, and strap them down. When, I'm ready to fish, I just release the strap in front of me, and draw the preferred weapon. No rod assembly required. Mine are ready to go. But, I certainly have no issue with those who prefer a different system.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 3:53am
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Sounds like a nice system old salt.  Wink
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 15th, 2010 at 6:05pm
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Old Salt wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:52pm:
3 1/2' long[/highlight], strapped in behind the bow seat under the thwarts and gunnels on one side of canoe. It can hold up to 5 rods. I just rest the butts on top of the thwarts in front of me, and strap them down. When, I'm ready to fish, I just release the strap in front of me, and draw the preferred weapon. No rod assembly required. Mine are ready to go. But, I certainly have no issue with those who prefer a different system.


I'm confused Old Salt, what do you mean when you say that your rod case is three and one half feet long but no rod assembly is required?
This past spring I built my own rod case out of PVC pipe with a cap on one end and a threaded cap on the other. I made it just long enough to hold three, two piece rods. That was the first and the last time I will use that rod case (or maybe another kind)!!! It was just too akward to carry and lash in the canoe, not to mention too heavy. Next time I'm just bungee strapping the rods in the canoe, when I want to fish, debungee and pull the line through the guides and tie one on (a lure that is).
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 15th, 2010 at 8:24pm
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I mean that it holds the tip ends of the rods, with the butt ends sticking out. The case and the butts are lashed into the canoe. The rods go with the canoe on the portages. When I'm ready to fish, I just remove the strap holding the butts, and draw it out of the holster.
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 5:56pm
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Last night I picked up an Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 4600 C3 from the clearance big at Gander Mountain. Only $40 because it was half off. I had been looking at this reel for a long time and the guy I had talked to about it competes in bass fishing tournaments here in the Midwest. He says it's the only reel that he uses and that he has 7 of them. It is the narrow version of the standard C3.

Does anyone have any experience with this reel?
  
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