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Reply #40 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 2:35am
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A couple of comments in response to several messages:

Yes, it takes a minute or two to hang the Platypus - and not much longer.  On a travel day, that can be inconvenient, but then if the kit is easily available it's worthwhile.  I carry a filtration water bottle just in case - it's just dip and drink.

I used to pump - minimum 90 strokes per liter, with filter cleaning about every five liters.  That was a royal nuisance, as was anchoring the canoe in the middle of the lake while I pumped.  Got rained on a lot those days.

The Platypus does slow down, but it does not clog except if water bubbles get stuck.  In both cases, the cure is simply backflushing for a few seconds.

I don't care about getting bark in the dirty water bag because it gets dumped out the next time I fill it.

As always, to each his or her own.

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Reply #41 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 10:33am
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It is interesting to hear people's comments about pumping, because now I am beginning to realize why you hate it so much.  Our filter hasn't presented us with so many problems.  It doesn't clog up so much, and we don't pump out in the lake!  We bring a large bucket (our biggest cook kit outer pan with handle) or our collapsible sink, full of water up to the campsite and one of us pumps into the water bottles (we use three, two are one-liter and one is a bit larger) for fresh water.  The rest of the water is then available for cooking, washing, whatever.

I wouldn't like pumping either if I were doing it out in the middle of the lake in a canoe.   And certainly not if it had to have a filter cleaning every five liters!  Never counted the strokes, though.  I am usually singing a song (in my head, not out loud) or listening to the loons.    Smiley  Haven't seemed to have the joy of that winking moose that comes to keep MT company, though.  Grin  I suppose that is only in the Q.

Not saying, though, that we might not change to your system.  Maybe we will.  Just saying that we haven't had the problems that some of you seem to have experienced, so I suppose that has made me less negative about the pumping chore.
  
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Reply #42 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 12:47pm
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" My brothers call that mechanical pepper.  When you stick your finger in the water they all move away from it and leave a 1 inch clear area around your finger. I have never seen those more than a few feet away from shore."

see!  told ya that deet works



As far as filter life goes, especially for Quetico where there is usually a lot of pollen in the water when I go, I wrap a coffee filter around the inlet hose, which helps extend the filter life a lot for a pump filter.

I used a Katahdyn gravity filter last year (wrote a review of it on here) - after about day 6 it started running slow, and slowed up to a dribble by day 8 ot thereabluts, so I used both the gravity filter and the pump after day 8 (or maybe it was day 9).  The Katahdyn gravity filter setup allows access to the filter element, and I had wrapped a single coffee filter around it, but it really needed two coffee filters to cover completely, and that's what I'd do next time I bring it.

I'd take both I think, or at least take Iodine tablets or some other chemical treatment as a backup.  I didn't have any issue with needing to pump during the day (travel every day but one) as I'd bring an extra liter of filtered water along with me - carry the extra weight rather than take time to filter during travel. 

That would be for two people (it is nice to have the water filtering for you while setting up camp).  Solo, I'll just stick with my pump filter, as I only need about a gallon and a half per day at camp, and I don't find it to be that big a chore to sit down for a few minutes and pump the filter.  In part, that is due to having a system to make it as easy as possible - I get the water from the lake in a nylon bucket, and pump out of there from a comfortable seat on a log or rock, sitting on a pad.  gave up filtering directly out of the lake a long time ago as being awkward and uncomfortable.
  
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Reply #43 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:30pm
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Spartan2 wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 1:19pm:
And I must say, it was refreshing to hear you say you agreed with Preacher!   Roll Eyes


I had to scroll up to see!  +1 to what he says about being content with what you have.  If it ain't politics we likely agree.

These days anyone who's looking to buy a new pump should just go gravity imo.  The costs are comparable.

A minute or two to hang is an exaggeration?  30 seconds would be an exaggeration.

It also takes seconds to clean a gravity filter.  Just turn the bottle upside down, disconnect the filter from the bag, let gravity clean the filter.  The MSR benefits from being back-flushed every 12L or so.  To compare with my MSR Miniworks which needed cleaning every 6L depending on floaters.

I do know a couple people who actually like pumping.  Sitting by the water lost in thought & pump.  More power to 'em!  Here, have my empties and think some more!   Cheesy
  
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Reply #44 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 9:03pm
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Preacher wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:30pm:
I do know a couple people who actually like pumping.  Sitting by the water lost in thought & pump.  More power to 'em!  Here, have my empties and think some more!   Cheesy

It gives my kids something to do . . . and sometimes they NEED something to do.  Don't know whether they like it, though it brings me a grin.  Roll Eyes

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