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Re: portage style
Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:47pm
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I have some strong preferences but since every portage is different each has to be adapted to.
#1 I do not unload the canoe unless high wind or terrain forces the issue. I would rather tie it securely out of the way and carry from there. I wet foot so thigh deep water is OK.
#2 I never like to carry the canoe first. I have rammed into too many obstacles that were above my line of sight. Not to mention veering onto the side path to see the rapids or where all the moose have been heading off to a good bog.
#3 I wear my life jacket across on the first carry and that pack's straps are adjusted to fit. Life jacket and hat are left at the end of the portage. My fanny pack with GPS,energy bar, compass and batteries stays with me unless there is no risk on the portage.
# The canoe comes last along with a light pack and my cheap but rugged back-up single blade paddle that is used as a walking stick. On really rough portages I will use this for a walking stick on each carry. I can't count the times the paddle has prevented big troubles.
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 11:09pm
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It's reassuring to read this thread in that it appears most double portage, as do we.  My paddling partner and I planned a trip recently with two young friends of mine.  In meeting with them to plan the trip, they were appalled when they learned that we double packed and they insisted they were going to travel light and fast, and suggested that once on the trip, we could agree to meet on some lake further ahead.  As we talked, it was evident that our styles were so distinctly it wouldn't work.  We ended up mutually canceling the trip. 

Other than that, the only comment I'd add that is not duplicative to past posts is the value I've learned in always packing the gear in the same location in the canoe.  Occasionally over the years, as we've prepared to leave a portage, I've noticed a "hole" in the canoe and asked where a certain pack was that always went in that spot -- and in the process avoided leaving gear on the portage.

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Re: portage style
Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 11:56pm
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I would hope KF would weigh in on this.  My self and several others have commented on how effetely he and Mrs. KF portage.
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #13 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:12am
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Old Salt wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:29pm:
I load up everyone else in the party first. If I've done it efficiently, there's not much left for me... Que sera... Wink


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Reply #14 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:16am
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jimmar wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:35pm:
I like to have a few things easily accessible in a pocket or strapped on while walking the trail: insect repellent, water bottle, camera, knife and maybe a little snack if it's been a long day.


Hey Jimmar......great minds think alike  Cool  Roll Eyes

Let's see......on the Batman belt I have insect repellent, water bottle, camera, knife and I will usually eat a bar sometime during the day on a portage.
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #15 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 6:09am
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It's good to know who's responsible for what on tandem trips so the last person doesn't get stuck with anything extra.

Like Joe, I proudly triple when solo. I got into the habit with a heavier canoe and have yet discovered a reason to change style/everything to double. Three ~33# carries beats two ~50# ones in my book. Two would probably be faster but I've tried timing myself many times. I always forget to look at the end or forgot what time I started so I figure it's not very important to me. The one thing I don't do is sit at one end or the other waiting for a second wind 'cause I don't need to.

In no particular order:
1- Canoe. Paddle in hand. PFD clipped around seat.
2- Water bottle goes in the day food pack which simply gets tossed on top of the food pack. Spare paddle in hand.
3- Jacket, maps, lures are in the day pack that's tossed on top of the gear pack after the tripod is strapped on top. Camera case in hand.

Things change a bit as the foodpack lightens but it's just me. Things like rainfly, hatchet find there way into the food pack plus some gas comes out of the gear pack as the trip goes on. I could probably do two trips near the end but it would be awkward.

Like Marten said about paddles, they come in handy. It's not like I use mine as walking sticks all the time but they do come in handy once in a while.

Mosquitoes aren't a bother if you can move quickly. I've not "deeted up" for a portage in years nor do I dread them like I use to plus there's less risk of serious injury.  It's just 5 nice walks in the woods. Wink

I will sometimes have a powerbar 10 - 15 minutes before before a long portage. They always seemed to help a bit on tandem trips..
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #16 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 2:05pm
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2x portage except when safety is concern. The infamous staircase portage into Russel comes into mind. 3x to top then 2x to Russell.

I don't think there is anyone "best" way,  but there are a few really bad ones.

Blocking the portage on either end is a big no-no.
Whatever style suits you, make it a routine and stick with it. People who just grab whatever is close each time, end up losing things sooner of later or have to repeat a trip because they forgot something or assumed someone else got it. Huh

If your a "roadrunner" and really traveling fast and light ( nothing the matter with that), that's one thing, but loading your self down to the point of exhaustion/ safety issue, because your trying to 1x/2x, because you think your saving time is misguided.
Better to make efficient non-stop( if possible) and quick returns ( picture time) than stop for frequent breaks because your exhausted or worse you take a tumble and injure yourself.
I bet if you timed yourself/others trying to carry to much versus quick and smart, you'd see the time savings is very minimal if at all.

I've seem more than a few paddlers bust butt to avoid an extra trip across and end up taking a break at put-in because they were wiped out from the effort. Wink
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #17 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 2:40pm
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This brings to mind the whole "smell the roses" vs "charging towards goals". I think you can blend the two some. Keep moving, but slow down and take it easy. Down shift to "ambling" speed. It doesn't really slow you down as much as you think since you're overall more rested and cover more ground day after day. Stop often to look around. I think it's safer to stay comfortably within your limits, and your mind can still be engaged to the discovery of new ground.

I always carry the same things with each carry.

Usually 2 passes over a portage with guys.

Trips with gals I do 3 carries though and that's OK too. That gives them/her time to get the cameras out. But I just got a new lighter boat for when there's just us two. So I'm hoping I can carry a small guide pack with some gear while carrying the boat to lighten our other packs enough to do 2 carries each. Gals use trekking poles for safety.

Guys are stronger, but gals are tougher. But that's a story for another day.  Wink
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #18 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 10:16am
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Phoenix wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Gimp of 01:

Yes, we usually wear sandals, crocs, Keens, etc. in the canoe but don't trust them for stability on the portage (unless it's really short and easy). So the change into hiking/portaging boots makes us feel more secure (it might also provide a little protection against poison ivy, who knows?).

It definitely adds time at each end of the portage to do the change, but we feel it's time well invested.


Actually it was a poke at the concept of a flat easy portage; not at a choice of footwear. Strong sturdy supportive well fitting footwear for a portage should just be a given.

Our routine we developed on the only 2 person trip I've been on was land; offload what the bowman was going to carry across (food pack); load him up and send him on his way. I finished offloading and grabbed my load for the trip across; canoe with whatever we had configured to fit inside it and a light pack. we would meet about the middle point while he was heading back for the rest. I would get to the end; get the canoe into the water and load up all that was there. Once he got back it was a short mission to get the rest of the gear loaded and off we went.

Left the food pack unattended for only a short while; and if the bugs were bad at the end of the portage we were able to shove off rather quickly.
  
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Re: portage style
Reply #19 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 8:04pm
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I have always traveled in tandem in the BW.  We always single portage.  All fishing gear, paddles, pfd's have their place in the canoe and the canoe goes first.  We then have two bags that the other paddler carries across to the other side. 

We usually, paddle for a week at a time and have learned that extra stuff, becomes just that, so we leave it at home.

This gives us more time on the water and in camp, which to me is always the best part of the trip.

  
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