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Reply #40 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 11:49am
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Kingfisher wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:30am:
mastertangler wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 3:12am:
This fellow mentioned sending me a few rigs but every afternoon I eagerly check the mailbox but remain disappointed and am becoming despondent. Perhaps this spring the errant leaders will magically appear Wink


You are right to call me on this MT. What length do you prefer?

Its called tie-able titanium and available at Bass Pro and from a company called KNOT2KINKY.
Leaders made from this stuff are ultra fine (I use 25lb test) and last until the snaps or swivels wear out. They do not kink even after dozens of thrashing pike or trout. I am still amazed at how good this stuff is.


I'm kidding about getting 5" leaders in the mail with premium cross lock snaps and ball bearing swivels with solid wire rings (no split rings) preferably black Grin.....

I was rather hoping you would talk about the material and so you have. Perhaps you could elaborate more on working with it. Type of knots and any nuances you have found (what it likes to do and just as importantly the dislikes).
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 2:20pm
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My old boss had some metal leaders that he would stretch and it would snap back. Anyone know what that was?
  
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Reply #42 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 3:08pm
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A slinky?  Grin Grin
  
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Reply #43 - Feb 15th, 2014 at 7:43pm
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I'm going to 2nd MT's opinion that the boga grip is an outstanding tool for both landing and releasing big pike. 

I learned about this tool 3 years ago when I started fishing with a big musky guy here in Ohio.  I watched him land numerous musky up to 46".  We also carried a full sized Frabill musky landing net and never used it once as the boga offers a couple of key advantages:
1.  No getting tangled in the net if/when the fish thrashes.  Can add extra time to the C&R process working on getting the fish out of the net.
2.  Control - you can control the fishes head with one hand, and work the pliars with the second hand; makes for very fast releases.

I also learned that the inexpensive versions of the boga are typically to be avoided.  I bought a $25 version and it worked great for pike < 30".  I "landed" a 42" pike that was a bit too fresh, and she rolled while hooked on the gripper.... twisted right off and went back into Basswood's Pipestone Bay  (Know the length because my son caught her about 60 minutes later!).  The boga has a pivot that allows the pike/musky to twist/roll as much as they want, and they will just spin on the boga and not come loose.

For those few of you out there that prefer to target pike over trout, walleye, and bass, be sure to grab a copy of the summer 2014 Boundary Waters Journal.  BWJ has been running a series of "how to" articles for catching each of the big 4 species.  I emailed Stu this month and he told me Summer 2014 was scheduled to have the pike article.  I think me may believe I'm a little imbalanced for spending all of my time chasing pike in such good walleye/bass/trout waters, but pike is what has been drawing me into the BWCA and Quetico since 1991.

Dave
  
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Reply #44 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:20am
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Magicpaddler wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 2:20pm:
My old boss had some metal leaders that he would stretch and it would snap back. Anyone know what that was?


That is the tie-able and yes stretchable titanium alloy I am talking about.
  
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Reply #45 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:24am
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pikeman wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 7:43pm:
For those few of you out there that prefer to target pike over trout, walleye, and bass, be sure to grab a copy of the summer 2014 Boundary Waters Journal.  BWJ has been running a series of "how to" articles for catching each of the big 4 species.  I emailed Stu this month and he told me Summer 2014 was scheduled to have the pike article.  I think me may believe I'm a little imbalanced for spending all of my time chasing pike in such good walleye/bass/trout waters, but pike is what has been drawing me into the BWCA and Quetico since 1991.

Dave


Stu has has asked me to contribute to that article and I have agreed. Anyone who has been following this thread is getting a sneak preview.

Darrel Brauer
  
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Reply #46 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:28am
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Darrel,

I have really enjoyed this post, and am anxiously awaiting the pike article scheduled for this Summer.  Thank you for contributing!

I read the Walleye "how to" article several times as I typically spend little to no time chasing Walleye in the BWCA.  Exactly opposite to most guys, my walleye are typically caught while fishing for pike in weed beds, usually early morning or in the evening.  The Rapala HJ14 is big enough to attract nice pike, but small enough that 18" walleye will still hit it routinely.  I am looking forward to trying some of the techniques discussed in the article.  This summer, I am headed up with my brother's 6 & 8 year olds.  My guess is that leaches on a small hook will be a much more enjoyable method for them to fish than throwing the 5~9" lures we typically use to target pike.

You asked about where to catch big pike.  My spots are no surprise to most:
25# Pike - Basswood's Pipestone Bay
25# Pike - Lac La Croix
22# Pike - Quetico Lake
21# Pike - OK, this one is small lake and a secret   Smiley

The 1st three fish were all caught trolling a 6" jointed musky lure called an Esox Minnow made by Dick Gries in the early 1990's.  The 21# fish was caught casting a 4" gold spoon called a Williams Wabler.

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Reply #47 - Feb 18th, 2014 at 5:44am
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mastertangler wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 11:49am:
I was rather hoping you would talk about the material and so you have. Perhaps you could elaborate more on working with it. Type of knots and any nuances you have found (what it likes to do and just as importantly the dislikes).


The titanium/Nickel alloy wire comes with instructions on tying to terminal tackle, follow exactly, extremely simple really. Remember no need to go any bigger with terminal tackle than the rating of your main line.

I have only one caution, the 25lb wire is so fine that without even realizing it you can pierce your skin very deep. The punture hole is so tiny though it will barely bleed, maybe just a drop. But it hurts.

Once you make and use a couple of these leaders you will never go back to whatever you were using.

  
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Reply #48 - Mar 13th, 2014 at 3:30pm
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I read through maybe I missed it. On big pike I use a kevlar glove to grab them on the bottom jaw and then turn them upside down immediately. This sort of knocks them out and they quiet right down. I keep them upside down until the hooks are out. Be ready for when you turn them right side up they can go nuts. I actually learned this trick from a very small woman who liked to fish pike.
  
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