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Kerry Inukshuk Offline Posts: 427 Location: Toronto Joined: May 13^th, 2010	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #20 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:03am	Quote Print Post
	Whether nails in trees are useful for my purposes or not is completely besides the point. They are sharp, metal objects that have been driven into a living thing. The earth in all its manifestation does not exist for my use. It's value is not based on its utility to me but is inherent because it is living. It isn't about getting things back to the way they were, it is about being conscious of all our relationships and moving gracefully and care-fully in concert with them. It astonishes me that people can spend time in the north country and not appreciate the delicacy and intimacy of the relationships that comprise existence.


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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #21 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:11am	Quote Print Post
	In no way do I favor the driving of nails into trees- totally opposed. The point you are missing is that the nails are already in the tree. To remove them is far more damaging to the tree than for them to remain- removal a decision in favor of an aesthetic concern rather than a decision favoring the well-being of the tree. Since they are preexistent one can certainly move with grace and concentration in order to hang a water bag.


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Kerry Inukshuk Offline Posts: 427 Location: Toronto Joined: May 13^th, 2010	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #22 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:17am	Quote Print Post
	Solus wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:11am: In no way do I favor the driving of nails into trees- totally opposed. The point you are missing is that the nails are already in the tree. To remove them is far more damaging to the tree than for them to remain- removal a decision in favor of an aesthetic concern rather than a decision favoring the well-being of the tree. Since they are preexistent one can certainly move with grace and concentration in order to hang a water bag. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound as though I was accusing you of anything. Only making a point that is dear to me.


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TomT Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1052 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Aug 26^th, 2007	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #23 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 12:46pm	Quote Print Post
	Solus wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:11am: Since they are preexistent one can certainly move with grace and concentration in order to hang a water bag. I love this line. I'll take a nail over grafitti anyday.


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Spartan2 Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1605 Location: Horton, Michigan Joined: Feb 1^st, 2005	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #24 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 6:52pm	Quote Print Post
	Like this?


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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #25 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:22pm	Quote Print Post
	Kerry- I didn't feel offended or accused. I agree with your sentiment; I am often shocked and stunned by the lack of awareness and connection demonstrated by folks. I couldn't resist having a little fun. Though it is true that upon arrival to a camp, with my loaded craft semi secured by gravity I stagger around the site looking for a "native American nail" to hang my water bag (an early model platypus 6L bag with a completely non functioning zip closure atop- thus hanging the bag (and getting out of the canoe with its contents intact) is the first order of business).


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BillConner Inukshuk Offline Posts: 665 Location: Thousand Islands Joined: Apr 12^th, 2010	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #26 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 11:45am	Quote Print Post
	TomT wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 12:46pm: Solus wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 2:11am: Since they are preexistent one can certainly move with grace and concentration in order to hang a water bag. I love this line. I'll take a nail over grafitti anyday. How old does grafitti have to be before it's a pictogragh?


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TomT Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1052 Location: Chicago Burbs Joined: Aug 26^th, 2007	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #27 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 11:56am	Quote Print Post
	Yeah, those darn native Americans writin' all over the rocks..... What surprises me is that people haven't tried to do their own pictographs using what the natives used. Why hasn't anyone written their name and date in red ochre on a cliff face to last for centuries? Too much work probably.


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solotripper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 8103 Location: clarkston MI Joined: Mar 14^th, 2005	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #28 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 1:15pm	Quote Print Post
	Quote: How old does grafitti have to be before it's a pictogragh? I can see it now Dad can me and the guy's take the canoe out, I promise to be home on time and not do anything stupid. Son, why was there traces of red ochre powder in the canoe? It's NOT mine Dad, I don't know how it got there


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intrepid_camper Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1348 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Jul 12^th, 2004	Re: Man made items, etc.. in Q Reply #29 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 1:27pm	Quote Print Post
	Family story: My dad (now almost 101 yrs old) was a boy scout canoe guide out of Ely in the early 1940's and caught up in "will we be going to war?" times. He was an artist type also. So on one wilderness trip he got a hair-brained idea to put a swastika looking symbol on a big rock face by scraping off the lichens to make it stand out. It got him put on the suspected anti-American list....


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