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Oct 16th, 2020 at 4:26pm
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This is my foolish optimism getting the better of me. I'm intending to get a June or late May trip into McAree next year with a buddy who's a bit less mobile but might be up for a Mark Anderson tow and drop off at Black Robe portage. I've never been but I thought it would be a nice easy trip with possible day trips into Iron or elsewhere. If we have Copia in the Spring, I'll give more details for anyone who might be in the area at the same time.

Post your wildly-optimistic trips for next year in this thread. The planning for these should get us through the winter! Wink
  
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Can I start with a wildly optimistic pre-trip event?  One where I actually learn how to correctly use all of the features on my new-ish Garmin In-Reach.
  
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As you know, we don't do wilderness canoe trips anymore, but we do go to the Canoe Country.  We have a cabin reserved at Rockwood Lodge for the last week of June, 2021, and we hope our granddaughter (who is now a freshman in college) will be going with us again.
  
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We'll keep hoping that these and any of our future plans will come to fruition next year! It doesn't hurt to plan!

P.s. I'm still learning how to use my Inreach as well.
  
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My plans are further east. Hoping to do several sections if not entire North Forest Canoe Trail.

Pretty sure I'll graduate from my Spot 2 to a sat phone to satisfy my spouse.  Hopefully a short learning curve.
  
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BillConner wrote on Oct 17th, 2020 at 11:02am:
My plans are further east. Hoping to do several sections if not entire North Forest Canoe Trail.

Pretty sure I'll graduate from my Spot 2 to a sat phone to satisfy my spouse.  Hopefully a short learning curve.


BillConner,

Interesting.  Earlier this week, my brother & I discussed this same possible trip, though 2022 is more likely to be our year.

If I'm not mistaken, "the Allagash Waterway" in Maine is a prominent section of the North Forest Canoe Trail.  That 120 mile waterway was gorgeous and well worth paddling way back in 1979 when I did it.  If you do no other section of the NFCT, do THAT one.

A word to the wise: right in the middle, there's a very challenging 9 mile stretch called "Chase Rapids."  Believe me, you'll want the Forest Service to portage your packs & gear to far end should you decide attempt to maneuver your empty vessel through numerous Grade 3 & 4 rapids. I strongly advise availing yourself of that service if you elect to paddle it.

Anyway, the Allagash alone would be a great "alternative trip" in 2021 for anyone looking for such.  The first half is easy paddling on beautiful lakes in the shadow of Mt. Katahdin.  After a heart-in-mouth roller coaster ride on Chase Rapids, the balance of the paddling fairly straightforward on easy-flowing rivers and streams.  Finally, if you intend to fish, the whitefish bite was quite good throughout.

No doubt the area has seen changes in the 41 years since I was there but I can't imagine it being less than a wonderful wilderness paddling getaway.

Have fun with that one!

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If the border is open we want to explore more in Atikaki. I always say I am done with early season trips but being in such withdrawal I need to get out there as soon as the ice skates are not needed. First trip would be to Wallace Lake and down the Wanipigow, up the Broadleaf and over to the Gammon River at Aikens Lake and take it to the Bloodvein and then up that river to the Sassiginnigak River. Upstream to a lake of the same name and a  long portage back to the Bloodvein and across the Tea Pail portage back to the Gammon and then head for the Obukowin Portages back to the Wanipigow. WOW, I feel better just after writing that out!!
  
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Marten,  I do not even know where several of those places are located, and I would still rather be there, than here at my desk at work.

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MossBack wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Marten,  I do not even know where several of those places are located, and I would still rather be there, than here at my desk at work.

MB -

The places referenced are located west of Bissett, Manitoba.  The start and end portions are located in eastern Atikaki Provincial Park (Manitoba).  The middle section (Gammon, Bloodvein) are located in western Woodland Caribou Provincial Park (Ontario).

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DentonDoc wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 10:59pm:
MossBack wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Marten,  I do not even know where several of those places are located, and I would still rather be there, than here at my desk at work.


That is the best part, not many go to Attkaki PP in Manitoba because there is not good map available. I can fix that.
MB -

The places referenced are located west of Bissett, Manitoba.  The start and end portions are located in eastern Atikaki Provincial Park (Manitoba).  The middle section (Gammon, Bloodvein) are located in western Woodland Caribou Provincial Park (Ontario).

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Atikaki and the surrounding area looks like a great trip.   Looked at a trip report on the area.   Not sure my Indiana skill set is up to that level of excitement.

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MossBack wrote on Oct 20th, 2020 at 2:30pm:
Atikaki and the surrounding area looks like a great trip.   Looked at a trip report on the area.   Not sure my Indiana skill set is up to that level of excitement.

MB


Speaking of Indiana skill sets, here's something from TODAY's news: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

I'm NOT trying to dissuade you, MB, but maybe they should be filtering the water a little more carefully in Indiana.  Could be something in it that inflames one's ganglia and disconnects one's synapses....

Jimbo   Cool

P.S.  Just kidding, of course.  I've made bigger mistakes than that fellow that could have turned out far worse.  Luck is a poor substitute for good "judgment" in the wilderness.
  
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Several years ago and friend and I went into the Quetico on short notice, the second week of October. Expecting and hoping for some foul weather experience.  We came prepared for the expected weather that never showed.   In shirtsleeves mid day and cooler at nights.  Caught some bass and a couple of unintended Lakers. Still a great trip.

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The gentleman who was rescued is from Elkhart Indiana. He is as far North as you can get without being in Lake Michigan.  No worse weather in Indiana than being snugged up against the big lake.  I am not criticizing at all, just wondering how he was caught off guard?  Glad it played out well for him.

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DentonDoc wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 10:59pm:
MossBack wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Marten,  I do not even know where several of those places are located, and I would still rather be there, than here at my desk at work.

MB -

The places referenced are located west of Bissett, Manitoba.  The start and end portions are located in eastern Atikaki Provincial Park (Manitoba).  The middle section (Gammon, Bloodvein) are located in western Woodland Caribou Provincial Park (Ontario).

dd


I'd do that trip!
  
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Jimbo wrote on Oct 20th, 2020 at 3:41pm:
MossBack wrote on Oct 20th, 2020 at 2:30pm:
Atikaki and the surrounding area looks like a great trip.   Looked at a trip report on the area.   Not sure my Indiana skill set is up to that level of excitement.

MB


Speaking of Indiana skill sets, here's something from TODAY's news: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

I'm NOT trying to dissuade you, MB, but maybe they should be filtering the water a little more carefully in Indiana.  Could be something in it that inflames one's ganglia and disconnects one's synapses....

Jimbo   Cool

P.S.  Just kidding, of course.  I've made bigger mistakes than that fellow that could have turned out far worse.  Luck is a poor substitute for good "judgment" in the wilderness.


  I took notice of them applying heating pads to him to get his core temps up.

FWIW, I keep 2 heating pads in the pockets of my PFD. You dump and get chilled so bad you can't build a fire right away, you put one pad over each kidney area and hunker down out of the wind.

Those pads will heat your core up enough to get some mobility into your hands and keep you from going hyperthermic.
  
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I'm thinking that LLC might be the first trip this next year given current uncertainties. Whether I'll tow out of Crane to Snow Bay again or go down the LIS into Loon and paddle from there, I don't know. I'll leave that to decide until permits start coming available and try for something in May...hopefully...
  
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Bentpine or Ted for next year if QPP opens.
  
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HighnDry wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Bentpine or Ted for next year if QPP opens.


Hmmmm.  Ted.  Sounds like a potential Grail quest....   Wink


  
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I’m thinking about a longer one of 13 nights in Quetico. I’m gonna go light and fast and do a bushwhack or 2 while I’m still able.

Btw Highndry, there’s a nice level bushwhack along a creek from Ted to Robinson.
  
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TomT wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 6:23pm:
I’m thinking about a longer one of 13 nights in Quetico. I’m gonna go light and fast and do a bushwhack or 2 while I’m still able.

Btw Highndry, there’s a nice level bushwhack along a creek from Ted to Robinson.


Light and fast, TomT?  So how much weight ya gonna lose?  From your packs that is....  Cheesy Grin
  
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The main thing will be not taking Luna’s tent at 3 lbs. I’ll go back to my 2 man tent with a pad. I can still use my top quilt which is lighter and less bulky than my bag. It’s hard cutting weight in the packs. Maybe consider no fry pan....
  
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pine_knot wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
HighnDry wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Bentpine or Ted for next year if QPP opens.


Hmmmm.  Ted.  Sounds like a potential Grail quest....   Wink




Not thinking Grail quest unless I trip over something..... Roll Eyes
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TomT wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 6:23pm:
I’m thinking about a longer one of 13 nights in Quetico. I’m gonna go light and fast and do a bushwhack or 2 while I’m still able.

Btw Highndry, there’s a nice level bushwhack along a creek from Ted to Robinson.


I've heard about this bushwhack and I've got a good map for that one.....thanks for the tip, TomT!
  
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I would sayLevel is an exaggeration.
  
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Solus wrote on Dec 30th, 2020 at 12:22am:
I would sayLevel is an exaggeration.


I remember it being fairly a good walk down by the creek but a little “holey” as well. The area where you climb on a big and old beaver dam to cross the creek is very scenic.

I did it once back in 2011. Damn, where does the time go? To quote Sandy Denny  Smiley
  
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The big issue for me to get into that Ted/Robinson area is probably to come at it from the south via the Horse River. I've done that entry so many times that I'm not sure I want to do it again this upcoming season.

This is all hypothetical of course at this point in time.

I might come at it from the north or west -- just need more time to reach it  Wink
  
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HighnDry wrote on Dec 30th, 2020 at 3:37pm:
The big issue for me to get into that Ted/Robinson area is probably to come at it from the south via the Horse River. I've done that entry so many times that I'm not sure I want to do it again this upcoming season.

This is all hypothetical of course at this point in time.

I might come at it from the north or west -- just need more time to reach it  Wink


Could come from Prairie Portage and enter Ted via SW McIntyre.  Very secluded and scenic set of portages from McIntyre to Ted.  Multiple options for return to PP from Ted.  With tow to/from PP, nice route with decent fishing too....  Cool
  
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In 2011 when I was a young buck I did PP to North Bay to Shade to McNeice, kahshahpiwi, Joyce, Burt, McIntyre, Ted (from the southern end of McIntyre like PK talks about), bushwhack the creek to Robinson, Kett,  Basswood, Wind Lake, Moose Lk.

I think it was 11 nights and I consider it the best trip I ever did. Many amazing wildlife encounters.
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The route Tom lists is spectacular.
Good options off this route:
Kahsh to Sarah to McIntyre.
Burt to Joyce to Brent to Ted from either back bay of Brent or via Northwest tip of McIntryre.
Ted to Milt, the Newts, Gardner, Bart, Robinson (Milt worth the trip or at very least a side trip from Ted)
Ted to Turn, Elk Gardner......

My favorite part of the park.
  
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If you are headed for Ted check out next to the last post in this thread.
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I can't reach that thread through my Firefox browser, MP. I think that i know which thread that you are referring to.

On another note, the trip through PP would probably take me to Side, then Sarah and possibly McIntyre or when I eventually would reach Sarah, there's a short portage into Tusk, two portages into Robinson and then onward to a bushwhack.

I've had an hankering to go in via Black Robe to McAree for some time. I'd like to get in to that area and then Argo  before reaching the Ted "area".

Much will depend on whether Quetico opens up this upcoming summer....
  
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Not so wildly optimistic ---  I'll be paddling a section of the South Platte river tomorrow - 50 degrees for a high.
  
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HighnDry wrote on Jan 2nd, 2021 at 9:05pm:
I can't reach that thread through my Firefox browser, MP. I think that i know which thread that you are referring to.

On another note, the trip through PP would probably take me to Side, then Sarah and possibly McIntyre or when I eventually would reach Sarah, there's a short portage into Tusk, two portages into Robinson and then onward to a bushwhack.

I've had an hankering to go in via Black Robe to McAree for some time. I'd like to get in to that area and then Argo  before reaching the Ted "area".

Much will depend on whether Quetico opens up this upcoming summer....


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Well I just read somebody's trip report (fishguts) from Brookings, Oregon. His group went in via Bottle and eventually to Ted. They looped out via McAree to Black Robe. I hope it was the one that MP wanted me to read Smiley Lots of good pictures, fishing and portage/campsite descriptions.
  
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Another route from the west is what 6 of us did on a 13-night trip in June-July 2018 starting at Black Robe and ending at Bottle.  Day one saw one group of three (Jimbo, brother and DentonDoc) go thru Minn,  the Darky R into Darky Lake.  The other group (me, son, and Magic) went via McAree into Wicksteed to Darky.  We arrived Darky about 2 hrs ahead of the other Group as they struggled a bit more thru the river.  But we all arrived safely.  After that, our group then made the trek via Darky R into Brent then south into Ted campsite via Earl.  Followed that with camps on Elk via Hurn, Argo, Roland with last camp just NE of Curtain Falls.  Jimbo's crew stayed on Darky, Argo, Roland and Iron.  Excellent route, companions, scenery, campsites and fishing.
  
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I'd agree that this loop has a lot of potential. I looked at why no one was taking the straightforward portage out of James into Pond (and then into McAree). That's because it's the infamous goat hill portage-- the reviews alone would ward one off of that one! Darky River is the better choice if coming at it from Wicksteed.

The trip report that I read described the group's route coming out of Ted and heading north to Brent, Suzanette, Conmee and Williams. That's an epic route right there in terms of portages and effort.
  
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We did that infamous goat hill portage....it has a few steep parts, but since my son and I were expecting worse, it didn't seem that bad....of course, my son carried the canoe on that portage and after Ted he made me carry the dang canoe on the remaining portages back to Bottle....he is weaker than me, ya know....  Grin
  
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If Quetico is open to us (praying it is), nothing super special, Up the "S" chain to the top of Agnes and back down. We've never been this way.
  
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Reply #41 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 12:49pm
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I'm rebooting this with the pending opening of the border on August 9th. I'll be trapped for an additional 2 weeks with work so I won't make it until about the 3rd week of August. However, if others are resurrecting previous QPP plans, feel free to post them up here. Smiley
  
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